I am shocked

[nimnull22]

Ok, I got used to read "Development mail list" and check there for the Fedora updates.
Now I read: F-14 Branched report: 20100810 changes, because I update Fedora 14.
So if you take a look in it, it has few updates.

BUT, when I decide to do it, I got:

==========================================================
 Package                                   Arch             Version                                Repository                 Size
==========================================================
Installing:
 kernel-PAE                                i686             2.6.35-3.fc14                          updates-testing            22 M
Updating:
 GConf2                                    i686             2.31.7-1.fc14                          updates-testing           994 k
 GConf2-gtk                                i686             2.31.7-1.fc14                          updates-testing            24 k
 autocorr-en                               noarch           1:3.3.0-3.1.fc14                       updates-testing           172 k
 cheese                                    i686             2.31.1-1.fc14                          updates-testing           179 k
 cheese-libs                               i686             2.31.1-1.fc14                          updates-testing           4.3 M
 device-mapper                             i686             1.02.53-3.fc14                         updates-testing           121 k
 device-mapper-event                       i686             1.02.53-3.fc14                         updates-testing            81 k
 device-mapper-event-libs                  i686             1.02.53-3.fc14                         updates-testing            76 k
 device-mapper-libs                        i686             1.02.53-3.fc14                         updates-testing           128 k
 freetype                                  i686             2.4.2-2.fc14                           updates-testing           349 k
 glib2                                     i686             2.25.13-1.fc14                         updates-testing           1.5 M
 glib2-devel                               i686             2.25.13-1.fc14                         updates-testing           1.5 M
 gnome-color-manager                       i686             2.31.6-2.fc14                          updates-testing           1.1 M
 gnome-desktop                             i686             2.31.6-1.fc14                          updates-testing           1.0 M
 gnome-icon-theme                          noarch           2.31.0-1.fc14                          updates-testing           8.1 M
 gnome-packagekit                          i686             2.31.6-2.fc14                          updates-testing           2.8 M
 gnome-power-manager                       i686             2.31.6-3.fc14                          updates-testing           2.9 M
 gnome-session                             i686             2.31.6-1.fc14                          updates-testing           422 k
 gnome-session-xsession                    i686             2.31.6-1.fc14                          updates-testing            29 k
 gnome-utils                               i686             1:2.31.1-2.fc14                        updates-testing           5.0 M
 gnome-utils-libs                          i686             1:2.31.1-2.fc14                        updates-testing            73 k
 grub                                      i686             1:0.97-66.fc14                         updates-testing           921 k
 gthumb                                    i686             2.11.6-1.fc14                          updates-testing           2.8 M
 gtk-vnc                                   i686             0.4.1-5.fc14                           updates-testing            83 k
 gvnc                                      i686             0.4.1-5.fc14                           updates-testing            60 k
 kernel-headers                            i686             2.6.35-3.fc14                          updates-testing           719 k
 libgudev1                                 i686             160-9.fc14                             updates-testing            58 k
 libpeas                                   i686             0.5.4-1.fc14                           updates-testing            61 k
 libudev                                   i686             160-9.fc14                             updates-testing            73 k
 libudev-devel                             i686             160-9.fc14                             updates-testing            65 k
 libwnck                                   i686             2.30.3-1.fc14                          updates-testing           346 k
 linux-firmware                            noarch           20100806-2.fc14                        updates-testing           4.7 M
 lvm2                                      i686             2.02.72-3.fc14                         updates-testing           521 k
 lvm2-libs                                 i686             2.02.72-3.fc14                         updates-testing           569 k
 mdadm                                     i686             3.1.3-0.git20100804.2.fc14             updates-testing           272 k
 nautilus                                  i686             2.31.5-3.really.2.30.1.fc14            updates-testing           3.5 M
 nautilus-extensions                       i686             2.31.5-3.really.2.30.1.fc14            updates-testing            53 k
 newt                                      i686             0.52.12-1.fc14                         updates-testing            97 k
 newt-python                               i686             0.52.12-1.fc14                         updates-testing            49 k
 openoffice.org-base                       i686             1:3.3.0-3.1.fc14                       updates-testing           151 k
 ...
 openoffice.org-core                       i686             1:3.3.0-3.1.fc14                       updates-testing            80 M
 openoffice.org-draw                       i686             1:3.3.0-3.1.fc14                       updates-testing           153 k
 openoffice.org-draw-core                  i686             1:3.3.0-3.1.fc14                       updates-testing           782 k
 openoffice.org-graphicfilter              i686             1:3.3.0-3.1.fc14                       updates-testing           327 k
 openoffice.org-math                       i686             1:3.3.0-3.1.fc14                       updates-testing           148 k
 openoffice.org-math-core                  i686             1:3.3.0-3.1.fc14                       updates-testing           1.2 M
 openoffice.org-opensymbol-fonts           noarch           1:3.3.0-3.1.fc14                       updates-testing           240 k
 openoffice.org-pdfimport                  i686             1:3.3.0-3.1.fc14                       updates-testing           497 k
 openoffice.org-ure                        i686             1:3.3.0-3.1.fc14                       updates-testing           2.6 M
 openoffice.org-writer                     i686             1:3.3.0-3.1.fc14                       updates-testing           156 k
 openoffice.org-writer-core                i686             1:3.3.0-3.1.fc14                       updates-testing           5.1 M
 perf                                      i686             2.6.35-3.fc14                          updates-testing           246 k
 policycoreutils                           i686             2.0.83-13.fc14                         updates-testing           668 k
 policycoreutils-gui                       i686             2.0.83-13.fc14                         updates-testing           203 k
 policycoreutils-python                    i686             2.0.83-13.fc14                         updates-testing           331 k
 python-bugzilla                           noarch           0.6.1-3.fc14                           fedora                     74 k
 python-ethtool                            i686             0.5-1.fc14                             updates-testing            26 k
 python-telepathy                          noarch           0.15.18-1.fc14                         updates-testing           224 k
 selinux-policy                            noarch           3.8.8-10.fc14                          fedora                    712 k
 selinux-policy-targeted                   noarch           3.8.8-10.fc14                          fedora                    2.2 M
 setools-console                           i686             3.3.7-6.fc14                           updates-testing           327 k
 setools-libs                              i686             3.3.7-6.fc14                           updates-testing           403 k
 setools-libs-python                       i686             3.3.7-6.fc14                           updates-testing           209 k
 system-config-date                        noarch           1.9.60-1.fc14                          updates-testing           868 k
 system-config-language                    noarch           1.3.4-6.fc14                           updates-testing           144 k
 systemd                                   i686             6-2.fc14                               updates-testing           365 k
 systemd-gtk                               i686             6-2.fc14                               updates-testing            53 k

That is good of course, but does it mean that we should not rely on "F-14 Branched report" any more?

[nimnull22]

The rest of updates:

 systemd-units                             i686             6-2.fc14                               updates-testing           101 k
 telepathy-haze                            i686             0.4.0-1.fc14                           updates-testing            74 k
 transmission-common                       i686             2.04-1.fc14                            updates-testing           393 k
 transmission-gtk                          i686             2.04-1.fc14                            updates-testing           644 k
 udev                                      i686             160-9.fc14                             updates-testing           341 k
 zenity                                    i686             2.31.6-1.fc14                          updates-testing           2.7 M
Removing:
 kernel-PAE                                i686             2.6.35-0.55.rc6.git0.fc14              @rawhide                   79 M
Installing for dependencies:
 clutter-gesture                           i686             0.0.2-2.fc13                           fedora                     22 k
 clutter-gst                               i686             1.0.0-1.fc14                           fedora                     34 k
 clutter-imcontext                         i686             0.1.6-3.fc14                           fedora                     28 k
 libmx                                     i686             1.0.3-1.fc14                           fedora                    476 k
Skipped (dependency problems):
 control-center                            i686             1:2.31.6-1.fc14                        updates-testing           1.6 M
 control-center-filesystem                 i686             1:2.31.6-1.fc14                        updates-testing            49 k

Transaction Summary
===================================================================================================================================
Install       5 Package(s)
Upgrade      77 Package(s)
Remove        1 Package(s)

So, what do you think, what the "F-14 Branched report" made for?
Rawhide report always contained the actual update.

P.S.
May be "updates-testing" doesn't belong to "development ?

---------- Post added at 12:05 PM CDT ---------- Previous post was at 11:27 AM CDT ----------

And the first result of this update is:
loss of full hinting on Verdana fonts
Installed Packages
freetype.i686 2.4.2-2.fc14 @updates-testing

Not good.

But firefox and skype starts without any additional help. Thanks to new selinux policy.

[RahulSundaram]

Hi,

Your confusion seems to be that you are expecting the Branch report to include packages from updates-testing while that is not the case. The branch report only includes changes in the base repo while updates-testing is enabled by default till close to the general release. If you want the full list, you have to read the updates-testing repo for Fedora 14 as well. Example:

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/piper...st/092346.html

Details are covered at

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Branched

[nimnull22]

Thanks, I will read it.

[GoinEasy9]

@nimnull22
I use a local mirror to search for what packages are in updates-testing here:
http://mirror.us.as6453.net/fedora/l...es/testing/14/
I see it's referred to on one of the pages Rahul gave you, but not directly linked.

[OainjaQakanj]

Also here. List of updates is longer than pay bill. Without T1 you will be in trouble. .

[GoinEasy9]

I saw them coming in to the list last night ... hoping they fix a lot of problems.

[OainjaQakanj]

Indeed they fix slow respond and cause Gnome-Panel blinking. If some has too much time, there is open thread for help. Cheers.