F13: hd space issue, wicd install question, menu editor question

[pampero]

Hi all.

Just switched from Linux Mint 9 to Fedora 13 i686 gnome on my amd64 HP laptop

1) Disk Usage Analyser reports the correct HD free space, ~150gb. However, File System reports ~45gb and the Home folder reports ~87gb. So, for now I'm unable to transfer my backed-up files, which are 130gb.

2) Also, network-manager is so useless that I can't connect to any of my usual free wifi connections. (I write this from the Mint Live CD, using network-manager without any problems.) I trust that Wicd would solve the connection issue, so I wonder if there's any way of installing Wicd offline, because I could download whichever rpm files onto a pendrive right now.

3) Is there any way at all to edit the menu ("alacarte" in ubuntu)? AFAIK, this is necessary to create a drawer on the gnome panel with a user-defined selection of applications. If not, what other solution exists?

Any help greatly appreciated.

[oxala]

Hello Pampero,

Just a little advice ... post each question in a separate thread ... people seem reluctant to reply to multiple questions ...

1. I am not sure what you mean by 45gb and 87 gb .... 45 gb for "/", the root file system and 87 gb for "/home", the home file system is my best read.

I am currently using 6.1 GB in my root file system, which includes all kernel sources, compilers, all OpenOffice.org junk, inkscape, and a couple of dozen home made rpms under /root/rpmbuild .... so I feel comfortable saying you should not need any more than 8GB for a root file system. I do not know if "Disk Utility", aka palimpsest, handles partition resizing. If it does not, you can use gparted from a live usb stick to resize the partitions/filesystems.

It may be obtained here: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/liveusb.php

My advice, if you don't have any data yet ... just reinstall and manually choose your partition sizes ... partition resizing is much slower than an os install these days.

2. network-manager works well for me ... I did have an issue 2 or 3 years ago ... OpenSUSE 11.1 I think ... it would not allow me to connect to unencrypted (open) networks; I have NOT had this problem with fc13. I have read of others having similar problems on different distros. I don't know anything about Wicd, so I can't comment.

3. alacarte is available in fc13, but I don't think it is installed by default. "yum install alacarte" ... and your good to go ...
alacarte is used to edit the system menu, which has nothing to do with creating panel drawers. Panel drawer creation is a feature of gnome-panel and gnome-panel on fc13 is gnome-panel, which is just a long winded and tedious way of saying YES, you can do that ...

And don't forget to have fun!


cwight

[leigh123linux]

Originally Posted by pampero

Hi all.

Just switched from Linux Mint 9 to Fedora 13 i686 gnome on my amd64 HP laptop

1) Disk Usage Analyser reports the correct HD free space, ~150gb. However, File System reports ~45gb and the Home folder reports ~87gb. So, for now I'm unable to transfer my backed-up files, which are 130gb.

2) Also, network-manager is so useless that I can't connect to any of my usual free wifi connections. (I write this from the Mint Live CD, using network-manager without any problems.) I trust that Wicd would solve the connection issue, so I wonder if there's any way of installing Wicd offline, because I could download whichever rpm files onto a pendrive right now.

3) Is there any way at all to edit the menu ("alacarte" in ubuntu)? AFAIK, this is necessary to create a drawer on the gnome panel with a user-defined selection of applications. If not, what other solution exists?

Any help greatly appreciated.

Try installing these rpms


http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/pa....fc13.i686.rpm
http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/pa...c13.noarch.rpm
http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/pa...c13.noarch.rpm
http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/pa....fc13.i686.rpm
http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/pa....fc13.i686.rpm
http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/pa....fc13.i686.rpm
http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/pa....fc13.i686.rpm
http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/pa....fc12.i686.rpm

Hopefully I haven't missed any deps.

[pampero]

Thanks fellas.

I reformatted and specified my own partitions (250mb boot, 2gb swap, the rest "/"). I had assumed that selecting the entire drive for installation would result in a neat, unfragmented solution, as ubuntu/mint always did.

Leigh, the only dependency you missed was Ethtool, and all of the four py* rpms were already installed by default, so I needed 5 rpms in total. Much appreciated.

A short rant: why are such widely-used packages as Wicd, Gconf-editor, Alacarte etc, omitted from a final CD which is only 675mb? Filling the extra 25mb with such utilities, Wicd in particular, would have saved me many hours of unnecessary bother, and I was close to ditching Fedora altogether.

[leigh123linux]

Originally Posted by pampero

Thanks fellas.

I reformatted and specified my own partitions (250mb boot, 2gb swap, the rest "/"). I had assumed that selecting the entire drive for installation would result in a neat, unfragmented solution, as ubuntu/mint always did.

Leigh, the only dependency you missed was Ethtool, and all of the four py* rpms were already installed by default, so I needed 5 rpms in total. Much appreciated.

A short rant: why are such widely-used packages as Wicd, Gconf-editor, Alacarte etc, omitted from a final CD which is only 675mb? Filling the extra 25mb with such utilities, Wicd in particular, would have saved me many hours of unnecessary bother, and I was close to ditching Fedora altogether.

Wicd wasn't reviewed in time to be include in F13

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=593841

The livecd isn't big enough to include everything, if you need extras it would probably be better to use the install DVD.