Calculator changed in F13?

[assen]

Hi all,

I'm a long-term RH/Fedora user, always with the GNOME interface. In my job I often use the standard calculator provided by GNOME.

To use the numeric keypad with it (as with any other application) one had first to hit the NumLock key. I was pretty amazed (and happy) when, suddenly, in F12 (or in GNOME 2.28?) this changed: in calculator (and there only!) I did not have to switch NumLock on - with or without it, the calculator displayed proper digits. It was cool :-)

Now, with F13, the calculator restored its "classic" behaviour - first hit NumLock, then use the numeric keypad. Not a big annoyance, but still curios - was the F12 behaviour unintended? Was it an error? Or is the F13 setting wrong? I did not find any place to modify it.

Related to this or not, in F12 the decimal point was depicted in calculator as a dot ".". In F13 it appears as comma ",". Just for the record, I always use the default en_US.utf8 locale.

If anybody can shed some light on the case, please do so.

WWell,

[CronoCloud]

Originally Posted by assen

To use the numeric keypad with it (as with any other application) one had first to hit the NumLock key. I was pretty amazed (and happy) when, suddenly, in F12 (or in GNOME 2.28?) this changed: in calculator (and there only!) I did not have to switch NumLock on - with or without it, the calculator displayed proper digits. It was cool :-)

Now, with F13, the calculator restored its "classic" behaviour - first hit NumLock, then use the numeric keypad.

Running F13 here and I didn't have to hit numlock to use in in Calculator.

Related to this or not, in F12 the decimal point was depicted in calculator as a dot ".". In F13 it appears as comma ",".

It's a dot for me.

Ron Rogers Jr. (CronoCloud)

[rosswmcgee]

I do not like the new calculator although I do not have a comma , I have a dot, you must use num lock to use that panel that is not new. What I do not like is there is no edit tab., like other gnome calcs.

[rosswmcgee]

After a month or so now I find myself wondering why Fedora put a calculator in F13 that is not as good as F12's or other

distros, it is sad because I find myself wanting to turn on my other MInt computer or Ubuntu, but then Ubuntu did the crazy

upper left hand control change, why do these developers not leave well enough alone??????

[mjrice]

I just tried using the F13 version of the calculator in programming mode. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there does not seem to be a way to key in a decimal number, say 75, and immediately convert it to binary (or octal or hex) without first adding zero to it to get a result.

Michael

[marko]

Originally Posted by mjrice

I just tried using the F13 version of the calculator in programming mode. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there does not seem to be a way to key in a decimal number, say 75, and immediately convert it to binary (or octal or hex) without first adding zero to it to get a result.

Michael

One option is you can hit the equals key without adding the zero and use the X sub 2 button to get binary, and so on for the other formats.

PS. the qalculate-gtk and qalculate-kde calculator packages look pretty good but not really for programming.

[mjrice]

Thanks, Marko.

Now if I can just remember that for next time. It's kind of non-intuitive because it's not apparent that anything happens (no visual feedback) when the equal key is pressed after keying in the number.

Michael

[sidebrnz]

IMO, the current version of the calculator is nowhere near as good as the old one. I liked being able to store numbers in the various memory cells and have them available the next time I ran the program. Who do we have to complain to in order to get this functionality back?

[mjrice]

I agree. There doesn't seem to have been much user testing on this new version. Can anyone produce a list of requested features that might justify such a radical change?

You can still save values for next time, it's just a bit more awkward. Key in Pi and press the = key. Then store the result.

Michael

[sidebrnz]

I don't need to store Pi. I need to store various numbers having to do with my writing, so that I can tell, day-to-day, how well I'm doing, without having to re-create the various criteria. (I do a NaNoWriMo every year.) in order to track each day's writing. Up through F 12, it was simple and convenient; I doubt it will be now.

[RahulSundaram]

Originally Posted by rosswmcgee

After a month or so now I find myself wondering why Fedora put a calculator in F13 that is not as good as F12's or other

distros, it is sad because I find myself wanting to turn on my other MInt computer or Ubuntu, but then Ubuntu did the crazy

upper left hand control change, why do these developers not leave well enough alone??????

You are blaming Fedora for a upstream GNOME change and then comparing it with a downstream Ubuntu specific change. That is apples to oranges.

[mjrice]

Storing Pi was just an example.

1) Clear the display
2) Key in any number you want to store
3) Press = key
4) Store number in desired register

Works for me.

Or maybe I misunderstand what what it is you want to do?

Michael

[stevea]

Redhat is paying member of the Gnome consortium (along w/ Oracle and Suse IIRC) - so this is a fine place to complains.

To get the F13 gcalctool to calculate a result you need to hit <enter> (used to be =).

To get the calculator to display 75 in hex select View->Programming, and also select calculator->Preferences, in the new window select "Hexadecimal" in the "Display Format" field.

If you require commas instead of dot '.' for a decimal point this is probably due to the locale you've selected at install time.
Type "locale" at a terminal and see if it's "en_US" (US English) or other appropriate for your location.

Yes - I too think gcalctool took a step backward at F12->F13.

[mjrice]

Stevea said:
To get the calculator to display 75 in hex select View->Programming, and also select calculator->Preferences, in the new window select "Hexadecimal" in the "Display Format" field.


AND press Enter to get the hex value in the display.

Once you get a value in the display you can go to Calculator|Preferences, select whatever Display Format you desire and the value immediately gets changed.

So, pressing a button to change the Display Format (in F12) has now become opening a window to change the Display Format (in F13). Who screamed for that improvement?

MIchael

[sidebrnz]

What "register," mjrice? In what mode? I've checked them all and see no registers, or place to store numbers.