Nouveau

Raven-sb · #1 26th May 2010, 10:17 PM

Hi Everyone,

Just a quick note to say how impressed I am with the Nouveau drivers in fedora 13. For the first time, open source 3D acceleration for nvidia card users seems a reality to me. After installing the experimental mesa drivers, I can happily say that everything works. 3D games, compiz, gnome shell, everything I've thrown at the Nouveau drivers worked without a hitch on my system

Thank you Fedora/Nouveau developers for your hard work, it is very much appreciated.

beavenburt · #2 7th June 2010, 01:17 PM

Half agree with that. 2D performance on my old card is fantastic and comparible to the blob. However, mesa experimental and compiz had my cpu throwing fits, even for basic tasks. It's no biggy as i'm not really fussed on 3D effects and my card is pre-historic.

Well done nouveau and fedora so far. It's great not to have to install the blob, for 2D at least.

droidhacker · #3 7th June 2010, 04:26 PM

It is impressive what they've managed to come up with having ZERO support from nvidia for it. Nvidia should be ashamed!

beavenburt · #4 7th June 2010, 05:00 PM

I know it stinks really. This card will be replaced shortly, I don't think i'll be buying nvidia!

Raven-sb · #5 7th June 2010, 05:57 PM

From what I've read the drivers depend upon card you have installed. I have a fairly recent 9800 GT and on my system the nouveau drivers are perfectly suitible. Are they as good as the offical nvidia drivers... not yet, but as droidhacker says, it's impressive how far they've come. I'm looking forward to the day when they are better than the offical driverrs (yes I know I'm an optimist )

CronoCloud · #6 7th June 2010, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven-sb

From what I've read the drivers depend upon card you have installed.

Yep, Nouveau 3D didn't get along with the 6150SE in this thing, though 2D was fine.

Ron Rogers Jr. (CronoCloud)

beavenburt · #7 7th June 2010, 08:51 PM

This card is an old geforce 4 so it's a load of crap. 3D is problematic with the propriety driver too. Who needs fancy effects anyway?!!

clearer · #8 7th June 2010, 10:03 PM

Having both an onboard Geforce 7050 and a separate Geforce 9600 GT, I can tell you that you mileage may certainly vary with this driver -- the 9600 works fine (slow, but fine) while the 7050 only produce garbage when rendering with opengl.

Not everything I have thrown at it works the way it's supposed to on the 9600 either -- a few games don't run at all (crashing) and some have horrible performance despite not having fancy graphics engines.

But yes, I certainly am impressed and hope the devs keep up the good work -- I think the devs should focus on stability and feature completeness first and speed second.

Now, all I need to get rid of is the firmware my (nonfunctional) wireless card is using and I'm totally free!

droidhacker · #9 8th June 2010, 06:21 PM

I have another thing to say about nouveau: This project puts me into deep conflict.

On one hand, the work they do is fantastic, and worth using and supporting. It makes me want nvidia hardware just to use the nouveau driver and support the nouveau developers (smolt profile leads to understanding of number of nvidia users, more nvidia users == more resources into nouveau development, etc.). On the other hand, *I HATE* nvidia for not supporting open source and really don't want to send any money their way.

CarlosMosca · #10 8th June 2010, 06:57 PM

I got a GeForce 9300M GS 256 MB built-in video card. Not working.

EDIT:
Can someone tell me what steps to take to enable Nouveau 3D? I yum-installed the mesa-dri-drivers-experimental package, tried enabling Desktop Effects under System Settings (I'm using Fedora 13 i686 PAE running KDE 4.4.3) and nothing. Restarted and tried enabling Desktop Effects, nothing.

Am I missing a step or a configuration tweak somewhere? Thank you in advance!

beavenburt · #11 9th June 2010, 06:48 PM

I've not used kde for a while so I could be wrong. Go to the last tab in desktop options and there's an option of opengl or xrender. Try xrender.

sidebrnz · #12 11th June 2010, 09:20 AM

I have a GeForce FX 5200 that worked great with the kmod drivers right up until I upgraded to F 13. Now, my boot hangs if I try to use them. I've uninstalled them and am trying the Nouveau driver, but I end up with the White Screen Of Death. I tried installing the mesa drivers, as suggested above, and ended up with a clunky, broken-up unusable desktop and had to remove them. Any thoughts on why neither the nVidia or the Nouveau drivers work? I'm posting from my laptop, right now, and have ssh access to the machine that's giving me fits, making it easy to follow instructions without having to write things down.

rclark · #13 13th June 2010, 10:48 PM

Whoo, glad I looked at the FX 5200 post as that is what I am running right now here with F12..... It's working great with the Nivida Kmod driver. I was planning on upgrading to F13 but I think, I'll wait a bit now

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oldcpu · #14 13th June 2010, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sidebrnz

I have a GeForce FX 5200 that worked great with the kmod drivers right up until I upgraded to F 13. Now, my boot hangs if I try to use them. I've uninstalled them and am trying the Nouveau driver, but I end up with the White Screen Of Death. I tried installing the mesa drivers, as suggested above, and ended up with a clunky, broken-up unusable desktop and had to remove them. Any thoughts on why neither the nVidia or the Nouveau drivers work?

I don't believe the nouveau driver works with the FX5200. At least I have not been successful with it.

Still, my guess is the nv and nvidia drivers will work with the 2.6.33 kernel and the 1.8.0 X-server in Fedora13 on a GeForce FX5200. It won't be straight forward, thou, to get it working. I have the opensource 'nv' driver working on a Fedora13 liveCD.

I also have the proprietary nvidia driver working on a different Linux with the 2.6.34 kernel and the 1.8.0 x-server, and so I would be surprised if it does not work in Fedora. I posted some details/guidance here: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=246643

Note to run the proprietary nvidia driver, it is IMHO key to blacklist the nouveau driver.

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Originally Posted by rclark

Whoo, glad I looked at the FX 5200 post as that is what I am running right now here with F12..... It's working great with the Nivida Kmod driver. I was planning on upgrading to F13 but I think, I'll wait a bit now

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IMHO if anything is working great, don't fix it.

... but still, I would think it possible to make the FX5200 hardware work with Fedora13, albeit it won't be an automatic install.

rclark · #15 13th June 2010, 11:19 PM

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IMHO if anything is working great, don't fix it.

That was my philosophy in the past and still is for my 'work' machines. However at home here, the last few Fedora revisions I've upgraded fairly painlessly (like to stay on bleeding edge) . My data is all stored on a separate drive, so I don't worry about that. I stay away from LVM and SELinux for simplicity sake (plus see no need for it on home computers anyway) so upgrading isn't that bad...... or hasn't been

. I'll wait now at least until end of life F12 to decide what to do next. That gives a few months yet..... The FX 5200 problem has swayed me to stand down for now....