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Old 28th April 2010, 10:46 PM
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Tips for better Fedora experience on netbooks

I'm trying out the upcoming Fedora release on my netbook and if everything is all right (in Fedora pre-release standards of course) I'm going to keep it.
So, are there any tips for better netbook experiance? Services that should be disabled, ways to book quicker, make windows fit in small screens and stuff.
Although there are few tutorials online, all I could find were Asus-specific, and I own a HP mini.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 28th April 2010, 11:11 PM
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Re: Tips for better Fedora experiance on netbooks

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So, are there any tips for better netbook experiance? Services that should be disabled, ways to book quicker, make windows fit in small screens and stuff.
I run F12 XFCE on a Acer Aspire One and learned a lot from this link:
http://jorge.fbarr.net/2009/06/11/fe...er-aspire-one/

although aimed at the AA1 the how-to is very helpful on general performance issues like services, discouraging swap etc. it should be usable for your HP mini also.
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Old 29th April 2010, 07:33 AM
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Re: Tips for better Fedora experiance on netbooks

I am disabling the following services (of course, thats absolutely subjective):
- avahi-daemon
- bluetooth
- livesys
- livesys-late
- sendmail

and the following startup applications:
- Bluetooth Manager
- Evolution Alarm Notify
- Package Kit Update Applet (I always use yum from a terminal)
- Personal File Sharing
- Remote Desktop
- User folders update
- Visual Assistance

Also, make sure you disable IPv6 in Firefox for faster browsing.
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Old 29th April 2010, 07:40 AM
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Re: Tips for better Fedora experiance on netbooks

You might find this useful for Firefox http://lifehacker.com/5360263/maximi...r-your-netbook
I prefer chromium which gives more screen to the webpage.

If you find some windows don't fit on the screen remember you can use left alt and click anywhere in the window to move it around.

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You might find this useful for Firefox http://lifehacker.com/5360263/maximi...r-your-netbook
I prefer chromium which gives more screen to the webpage.

If you find some windows don't fit on the screen remember you can use left alt and click anywhere in the window to move it around.
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Old 29th April 2010, 09:19 AM
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Re: Tips for better Fedora experiance on netbooks

The Vimperator add-on for firefox is great for saving screen space.

http://vimperator.org/vimperator
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Old 29th April 2010, 11:19 AM
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Re: Tips for better Fedora experiance on netbooks

Fedora 12 normal i686 version (gnome) runs fine on several netbooks I've used (asus, acer and samsung models). On older models, if you had a small ssd (4GB) then it was a good idea to not create any swap, but with newer hard disk models you can just do a default install. The few windows that don't fit can be moved with alt + left click (or alt+F7).

If the HP Mini has standard intel graphics (using the i915 driver) then it's mostly straightforward, and even wifi now works by with the open source drivers on most netbook models. To check you should boot a livecd from usb and see if there are any driver issues (eg broadcom requires wl driver from rpmfusion)

There has been a long standing bug with DeviceKit-Power which affects some laptops/netbooks so that it doesn't recognise that you've pulled out the power cable and switched to battery power, but I've only seen this on an acer netbook.

One major annoyance with Fedora on netbooks is that touchpad tapping is disabled by default, the dialog to enable it is one of the few badly designed ones that doesn't fit the vertical screen res (System -> Preferences -> Mouse -> Touchpad) but you can just close the dialog window at the top right, unfortunately this won't enable tapping on the gdm login screen, for synaptics touchpads that requires editing /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty/10-synaptics.fdi and copying it to /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ (Uncomment the TapButton lines)

There are some good suggestions above, I also disable the automatic bug reporting tool abrtd ('chkconfig abrtd off') as I've seen it use nearly a gig of disk space in /var/cache/abrt (which is ridiculous)
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Old 29th April 2010, 12:10 PM
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Re: Tips for better Fedora experiance on netbooks

Thanks for all the advices.

I'll disable SELinux as well. I don't think it's necessary on a netbook.
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Old 29th April 2010, 01:38 PM
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Re: Tips for better Fedora experiance on netbooks

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Thanks for all the advices.

I'll disable SELinux as well. I don't think it's necessary on a netbook.
What it does is prevent accidents.

It protects the system from modifications, and provides the ability to
detect attempts to make unauthorized modifications.

This is just as important on a laptop as it is on a workstation or server.
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Old 29th April 2010, 06:17 PM
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Re: Tips for better Fedora experiance on netbooks

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What it does is prevent accidents.

It protects the system from modifications, and provides the ability to
detect attempts to make unauthorized modifications.

This is just as important on a laptop as it is on a workstation or server.
*yawn*
I understand the highfalutin principle behind SELinux but the fact remains that most users Just Still Don't Need It (tm) strictly speaking. The world will continue spinning if you turn it off on a netbook, and it's just not "important" to a large proportion of users. On the other hand it's rarely injurious and these days for the most part stays out of the way.

That said, in the present discussion regarding netbooks, I doubt that disabling it will eliminate enough overhead to make a subjectively noticeable performance difference. I leave it on.


Anyway, I'm an Aspire One user here. GNOME works decently well. Some thoughts on panel real estate:
1) Go with a single panel
2) Use "Window Picker" instead of "Window List"
3) Use the smaller GNOME menu -- it's called "Main menu" -- instead of the default

Be prepared for the nautilus option screens to be too big for your monitor.
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Old 29th April 2010, 11:08 PM
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Re: Tips for better Fedora experiance on netbooks

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1) Go with a single panel
2) Use "Window Picker" instead of "Window List"
3) Use the smaller GNOME menu -- it's called "Main menu" -- instead of the default
Already done all 3 of them, but thanks

Quote:
Be prepared for the nautilus option screens to be too big for your monitor.
It's not like I change Nautilus options often

I also reduced the DPI in the display preferences. Helped a bit.
And I got already accustomed with the font size and all.

Only problem now is that CPU temp is quite high. 58~63 degrees Celsius
And I'm mostly in C4 mode.
Ubuntu NR I used before was a bit cooler.

And found a pulse audio bug Reported.

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Only problem now is that CPU temp is quite high. 58~63 degrees Celsius
/update: It went up to 66 oC at some time bringing many lags with it. I ran powertop and it seems that kernel is the one that loads the system the most with pulseaudio being 2nd. How can I collect some info about this and report it as bug. It counts as a sort of defect, right?
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Old 29th April 2010, 11:14 PM
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Re: Tips for better Fedora experiance on netbooks

I use fedora12-xfce on my AA1 - the xfce means it uses less resources and the icon dpi can be altered to hearts content making windows fit much better :P
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Old 29th April 2010, 11:19 PM
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Re: Tips for better Fedora experiance on netbooks

Well, I don't really like xfce's approach (I've been using it for a while on the desktop pc) but if that's the only way to have lower cpu temp, I'll consider it.

For the time's being my only concerns are the hot CPU and the not directly related permissionshttp://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?p=1355637 issue.
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Old 20th May 2010, 06:07 PM
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Re: Tips for better Fedora experience on netbooks

Hey, where's the LXDE love? I found the LXDE Fedora Spin to be the most netbook friendly of the Fedora family. The interface glides and windows are drawn at the same speeds as on a fully-fledged desktop computer.

The power consumption with Fedora LXDE is notworthy too, since without applying any tweaks, it played nice with my battery, especially after prolonged useage in the LXDE environment. Every CPU cycle counts when it comes to netbooks, after all!
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Old 25th May 2010, 02:56 PM
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Re: Tips for better Fedora experience on netbooks

What was Moblin and now is MeeGo is in the Fedora repos.
Netbook screenshots
Fedora provides the desktop part of MeeGo and you can install and try it :
Code:
su -
yum -y install *moblin*
exit
Designed specifically for netbooks. Backed by Intel, Nokia and the Linux foundation.

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Old 25th May 2010, 03:09 PM
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Re: Tips for better Fedora experience on netbooks

I'll be trying both LXDE and Moblin after the traffic due to F13 release settles down.
Mobiln didn't work for me ~2 weeks ago. A blank screen what all I got.
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