Alternative to Alacarte?

[ToddAndMargo]

Hi All,

In FC12 Gnome, is there a way to edit my menus (application, system, etc) with something other than Alamode? (It leaves features out, names the icons really weird names, and is generally a pain the the neck to use.)

Many thanks,
-T

[Simian Man]

There is also the KDE menu editor, but I don't know which package it's in, but I doubt it would be better for you than alacrate. AFAIK there are no other menu editors that support the FreeDesktop.org standard.

BTW alacarte is the name of the menu editor. Alamode makes me hungry .

[Dangermouse]

do you mean alacarte

su
yum install alacarte

[ToddAndMargo]

Originally Posted by Dangermouse

do you mean alacarte

Yes.

Any alternatives?

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Originally Posted by Simian Man

Alamode makes me hungry .

Okay. Alamode is the name of real estate appraisal software that one of my customers uses. And, I always reach for the salt when I want the sugar. :'[

-T

[Dangermouse]

what more do you want to do other than change the names and icons which alacarte does,

edit also changed title from alamode to alacarte

[ToddAndMargo]

Originally Posted by Dangermouse

what more do you want to do other than change the names and icons which alacarte does

I want to add icons. And I want all the icon options, not just some of them. I also do not want the actual name of the icon named some weird cryptic name. And, I want something easier to use. Be nice to have an "apply" button too -- getting real tired of having to exit to apply changes

edit also changed title from alamode to alacarte

Thank you

[Gödel]

alacarte represents state-of-the-art in the minds of gnome developers, you have to live with it. It's unlikely to get any better as the gnome project is heading in a new direction.

amusingly, alacarte used to be known by the (more accurate) name 'Simple Menu Editor', I wonder when they decided it had reached some level of sophistication?

[ToddAndMargo]

Originally Posted by Gödel

alacarte represents state-of-the-art in the minds of gnome developers, you have to live with it. It's unlikely to get any better as the gnome project is heading in a new direction.

amusingly, alacarte used to be known by the (more accurate) name 'Simple Menu Editor', I wonder when they decided it had reached some level of sophistication?

They probably decided to change the name so that no one would know what the menu editor was and would stop bothering them with how weird it worked and what they left out. user=enemy

[DavidMcCann]

Actually, Alacarte has nothing to do with the developers. A few years ago they decided to change the method of editing the menu. In typical Gnomish fashion, the old method was removed from the new release even though the new one was not yet ready. The author of Alacarte then released his program, his first published software, and the gnomes promptly adopted it.

[ToddAndMargo]

Originally Posted by DavidMcCann

The author of Alacarte then released his program, his first published software, and the gnomes promptly adopted it.

And I am busting his chops over it and he donated it to all of us. Make me feel a bit guilty. :'[

[Gödel]

You are allowed to criticise rubbish free open-source software and suggest improvements, but there's not much point if no one's listening.

The problem is the mentality of the Gnome Developers - they don't think advanced customisation of the menu (or much else) is a necessary feature, which is why Gnome hasn't got a decent editor, it's all to do with the developers, despite what DavidMcCann says.

To a user coming from Window's "Customise the Start Menu", it makes Gnome look like it's written by children doing a school project.

Gnome is plagued by simple annoyances, a lot of them are targeted in Canonical's Ubuntu's 100 papercuts initiative , which isn't purely aimed at Gnome, but it may result in Gnome looking a bit more professional by the time Windows 10 arrives

[LionelPutz]

alacarte dependencies are huge - ridiculous for a menu editor.

Try LXMenuEditor (lxmed) - download from SourceForge. Designed for LXDE but works well in other environments - Java based, freedesktop.org compliant and very lightweight.

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alacarte dependencies are huge - ridiculous for a menu editor.

Try LXMenuEditor (lxmed) - download from SourceForge. Designed for LXDE but works well in other environments - Java based, freedesktop.org compliant and very lightweight.

[Miikka]

Originally Posted by LionelPutz

alacarte dependencies are huge - ridiculous for a menu editor.

Really?

[root@htpc miikka]# yum deplist alacarte |grep -v provider
Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit
Finding dependencies: 
package: alacarte.noarch 0.13.2-3.fc15
  dependency: gnome-panel
  dependency: /usr/bin/python2.7
  dependency: gnome-menus >= 2.27.92
  dependency: python(abi) = 2.7
  dependency: pygtk2
  dependency: /bin/sh
  dependency: gnome-python2-gconf

[ToddAndMargo]

Originally Posted by LionelPutz

Try LXMenuEditor (lxmed)

Thank you. I will give it a look see!

-T

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I was wondering just a few hours ago how to look up dependencies. I was using pbone.net. Thank you!

-T[COLOR="Silver"]

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-T[/QUOTE]

Just downloaded it from http://lxmed.sourceforge.net/. Pretty sweet package. The only things I found I did not like was 1) it doesn't let you see a graphic of the icons you choose and 2) in manual mode, there is not way of showing you all the options you can use.

Thank you!
-T

[AdamW]

miikka: depending on gnome-panel and gnome-menus is pretty heavy for a system which doesn't have gnome installed.