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    f12 mouse click problem

    just performed a f12 preupgrade from f11.
    on a dell latitude d600 laptop 1.7Ghz 2GB

    since installing i have remembered why i had reinstalled f11, after having f12 installed last year.
    mouse button control is annoying
    clicking with the left button to select something doesn't always happen, so you bash the button several times before giving up or when selecting an icon to start firefox say, the mouse doesn't release the icon and you end up dragging it across the desktop then hitting ESC to release it.

    i installed 'control-center-extra' as mentioned elsewhere for mouse focus but this is not solving my problem

    Anyone had this issue on f12?
    can someone help? please

    Attached Xorg.0.log, Dmesg doesn't seem to have any funnies in it.

    previous versions of fedora worked OK.
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    That's not normal behaviour. It reminds me of what happens when the system is cpu bound.

    dd_wizard

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    how do i determine what is causing my issue?

    i was thinking i could watch 'system monitor' or 'top'
    could a nice level change improve things

    i'm just not sure where to start

    any help very much appreciated

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    System Monitor and/or top are both good starting points. If cpu usage is high, you can try to trouble shoot what's causing it. There could be some hardware issue, also. Oh, I've had the same behaviour when someone else is using a wireless mouse that happens to collide with mine frequency wise.

    dd_wizard

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    been monitoring the cpu cycles using 'top' for a couple of days and at no point can i say the processor has been running at 100%, whilst i have had issues with the mouse.

    i have a second laptop installed with mythdora 10.21 and using that as a frontend.

    i have compared the mouse options in 'gnome-mouse-properties' and emulated the settings from that, which has helped slightly although it may only be masking the real issue.

    the mouse seems to select an item but doesn't release, its as though the mouse press action is acted upon but the mouse release action is not.

    using 'xev' the press and release action are logged and to me look ok.

    could there be an issue with a link from the mouse to software?, i mention this because of the faffing about i had when trying to get remote control which worked in Mythdora.

    what other areas can i look at to find the root of the problem?

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    thinking the problem was related to gnome. i downloaded LXDE-F12-livecd.
    within seconds of running the desktop the 'Automatic Bug Reporting Tool' picked up a kernel crash

    funny that gnome didn't pick it up

    below is a portion of the report
    what does any of it mean? i would like to understand


    WARNING: at arch/x86/kernel/apic/apic.c:247 native_apic_write_dummy+0x32/0x3e() (Not tainted)
    Hardware name: Latitude D600
    Modules linked in:
    Pid: 0, comm: swapper Not tainted 2.6.31.5-127.fc12.i686 #1
    Call Trace:
    [<c0436d93>] warn_slowpath_common+0x70/0x87
    [<c0417426>] ? native_apic_write_dummy+0x32/0x3e
    [<c0436dbc>] warn_slowpath_null+0x12/0x15
    [<c0417426>] native_apic_write_dummy+0x32/0x3e
    [<c040fd2c>] intel_init_thermal+0xc3/0x168
    [<c040e8ce>] ? mce_init+0xa9/0xbd
    [<c040f600>] mce_intel_feature_init+0x10/0x50
    [<c040dcc9>] mce_cpu_features+0x1b/0x24
    [<c0760681>] mcheck_init+0x249/0x28b
    [<c075ea6e>] identify_cpu+0x37f/0x38e
    [<c0990265>] identify_boot_cpu+0xd/0x23
    [<c09903df>] check_bugs+0xb/0xdc
    [<c0478a33>] ? delayacct_init+0x47/0x4c
    [<c09898a3>] start_kernel+0x31c/0x330
    [<c0989070>] i386_start_kernel+0x70/0x77
    ---[ end trace a7919e7f17c0a725 ]---

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    I've had some minor mouse issues through the last 2 or 3 releases of Fedora. Can't say if I see the same in other distros. Just haven't noticed. Anyhow, I seem to need to click hyperlinks more than once, most of the time. At times I can click a link and nothing will happen until I move the pointer away from the link text. Weird stuff, but as I said, a minor annoyance and nothing that I'm overly concerned with. The mouse is a wireless / USB Microsoft laptop mouse for what it's worth. That said, for your issue, is trying a different mouse, just to see what the results are, out of the question?

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    +1 to the mouse issue.
    D600 with Fedora 12 as well. Same thing, the mouse will not "un-click" unless mouse is moved.

    Also I have the same bug report (as lambcutlet above) on boot. After I log in and the laptop sits a few minutes the bug pops up.

    I went from FC9 to 12 - there were no (known) issues with 9.

    Any info on how to correct these two issues would be appreciated.
    Also any additional info I can give let me know.
    If not satisfied with this post, please return unused portion for full refund.

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    sorry Tom Servo,
    never got to the bottom of the problem.
    i have returned to f11 and all is well again.
    Unless someone magical produces a fix. i am going to wait for f13 and fingers crossed it is just a blip in f12.

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    Pointer crazy on Dell Latitude

    I just put a new Fedora 12 on my Dell Latitude E6400, and yeah the pointer and button behavior is nuts. There's a bug in here somewhere that is related to Dell pointers. The touchpad is almost OK, but I'm filing a report and crossing fingers that it can be fixed at some point.

    -Sean

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    Left Mouse Button Sticks in Gnome

    I'm using Fedora 12 on a toshiba tecra m2 laptop. When I left click on the vertical scroll bar in Firefox or in the Gnome terminal emulator, it sticks to the scroll bar even when I release the left mouse button. Basically, it acts like I'm still holding the left mouse button down. The only way I can escape, is by right clicking the mouse button. This site

    http://forums.opensuse.org/pre-relea...buttons-2.html

    suggests the following fix:
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    export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=true
    but this did not solve my problem.

    Any ideas?

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    Known issue to be addressed in kernel .33

    After looking around a number of forums I found out that there is a piece of pointer/touchpad hardware commonly found in laptops by ALSA. Because of certain hardware code coming out of it, it is not too compatible with Fedora thus far. This is known about, and there are plans to have it fixed for kernel subversion 33. We are now working with subversion 31.

    I have found that sticking to the touchpad and its buttons renders the behavior pretty OK. Start playing with the pointer and all hell breaks loose.

    -Sean

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    Quote Originally Posted by smconvey
    I'm using Fedora 12 on a toshiba tecra m2 laptop. When I left click on the vertical scroll bar in Firefox or in the Gnome terminal emulator, it sticks to the scroll bar even when I release the left mouse button. Basically, it acts like I'm still holding the left mouse button down. The only way I can escape, is by right clicking the mouse button. This site

    http://forums.opensuse.org/pre-relea...buttons-2.html

    suggests the following fix:
    Code:
    export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=true
    but this did not solve my problem.

    Any ideas?

    I had the same pb with my Toshiba L300 laptop and the touchpad didn't work I had to press on the left mouse button to select somthing.

    I fixed the pb in the Preferences menu/Mouse, in the tactile pad tab I choosed Activate the mouse click with the tactile pad. Now everything works fine

    Maybe you can try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skandaboy
    I had the same pb with my Toshiba L300 laptop and the touchpad didn't work I had to press on the left mouse button to select somthing.

    I fixed the pb in the Preferences menu/Mouse, in the tactile pad tab I choosed Activate the mouse click with the tactile pad. Now everything works fine

    Maybe you can try.
    I tried that and it didn't solve the problem in my case, but thanks for the suggestion.

    Mike

    ---------- Post added at 07:35 AM CST ---------- Previous post was at 07:31 AM CST ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by safulop
    After looking around a number of forums I found out that there is a piece of pointer/touchpad hardware commonly found in laptops by ALSA. Because of certain hardware code coming out of it, it is not too compatible with Fedora thus far. This is known about, and there are plans to have it fixed for kernel subversion 33. We are now working with subversion 31.

    I have found that sticking to the touchpad and its buttons renders the behavior pretty OK. Start playing with the pointer and all hell breaks loose.

    -Sean
    Interesting. I was using the pointer and then switched to using the touchpad, but still had the same problem. I then switched to a USB mouse and don't seem to be having any problems with the mouse.

    So it looks like (for me) it is only when I use the touch pad or pointer, but the USB mouse is okay.

    Thanks, I look forward to the fix with kernel subversion 33. Mike

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    Re: f12 mouse click problem

    I believe I have a similar issue as well.
    Have been using F12 for the last few months when I started experiencing odd issues with my mouse. From my dell latitude e6500, I typically surf the web so I've only noticed while using firefox. While open, I lose the ability to click on system menus or change focus from firefox using either usb-wired mouse or touchpad. Everything works fine for the first 2-5 minutes but soon after I'm limited to keyboard input (tabbing through pages) only. Mouse will move across the screen but no other functionality. The only system icon I can click on is firefox. Applications|Places|System menus are unresponsive.

    Tried clean install of ubuntu 10.04 just to compare...same problem.
    Reformatted drives and did a fresh install of F12. Only updates thus far have been...
    kernel to 2.6.32.11-99.fc12
    kmod-wl

    and I'm currently back to tabbing through web sites.

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