how to get rid of "default password for keyring"?

marlonmin · #1 31st December 2009, 10:47 AM

Whenever I restart my computer, it asks me to retype the keyring password for NetworkManager.

Is there a way to get rid of this or set it permanently?

Iron_Mike · #2 31st December 2009, 04:46 PM

Goto your home directory and navigate to:

.gnome2/keyrings

Delete the keyrings and reboot. A new keyring will be created and should use your login password as the unlock password.

marlonmin · #3 31st December 2009, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iron_Mike

Goto your home directory and navigate to:

.gnome2/keyrings

Delete the keyrings and reboot. A new keyring will be created and should use your login password as the unlock password.

I did that by deleting the "keyrings/default.keyring", then reset the password the same as my login password. But the problem still exists. It asks me to type the pass again.

What's wrong?

JEO · #4 31st December 2009, 11:22 PM

You should not manually have to set the password of the keyring. For Fedora 11, the name of the keyring file is login.keyring. If it is asking you for default.keyring password just rename or delete the default.keyring file. Don't recreate it.

marlonmin · #5 31st December 2009, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JEO

You should not manually have to set the password of the keyring. For Fedora 11, the name of the keyring file is login.keyring. If it is asking you for default.keyring password just rename or delete the default.keyring file. Don't recreate it.

I am on f12. Before it connects to wireless, a window always pops up and ask me to set a keyring password. and I set it the same as the login password.

under ./.gnome/keyring, a default.keyring file is always created automatically after i have to type the keyring password.

JEO · #6 31st December 2009, 11:29 PM

Oh, and I just remembered, if you have Fedora 10, then the file it uses is default.keyring, the one to delete is login.keyring, which gets created when you mistype a password.

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I will give F12 a try and see if I get the same result on wireless.

marlonmin · #7 31st December 2009, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JEO

Oh, and I just remembered, if you have Fedora 10, then the file it uses is default.keyring, the one to delete is login.keyring, which gets created when you mistype a password.

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I will give F12 a try and see if I get the same result on wireless.

where is the login.keyring located?

JEO · #8 31st December 2009, 11:38 PM

Just tried F12 32 bit. The file created and increases in size when it stores passwords is called login.keyring. This file should be unlocked when you log in automatically. There is no default.keyring file and I am never prompted for a password for it.

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It is is the ~/.gnome2/keyrings folder just like the other file.

marlonmin · #9 31st December 2009, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JEO

Just tried F12 32 bit. The file created and increases in size when it stores passwords is called login.keyring. This file should be unlocked when you log in automatically. There is no default.keyring file and I am never prompted for a password for it.

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It is is the ~/.gnome2/keyrings folder just like the other file.

that's strange. on my laptop, i only see default.keyring, not login.keyring, as shown below:

[root@cin cin]# ls -l ./.gnome2/keyrings/
total 8
-rw-------. 1 cin cin 7 2009-12-31 15:03 default
-rw-------. 1 cin cin 625 2009-12-31 15:03 default.keyring

even if i deleted default.keyring, next time when i login i have to retype the password and this file is created again.

wha'ts going on?

JEO · #10 1st January 2010, 12:13 AM

Did you do an upgrade to F12 from a previous Fedora version or a fresh install? Perhaps there are still some old packages or config files around from a previous version of Fedora. The default.keyring file seems to be leftover from F10.

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You can do a quick test to see if it's a config file in your user directory or not. Create a new user, login under that one, and see if you get the same issue or not.

DZ* · #11 1st January 2010, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by marlonmin

I am on f12. Before it connects to wireless, a window always pops up and ask me to set a keyring password. and I set it the same as the login password.

under ./.gnome/keyring, a default.keyring file is always created automatically after i have to type the keyring password.

I got tired of this too, it made little sense to be asked for the password, since my install is encrypted. Then I found that it's possible to set the keyring password as empty: just hit Ok when prompted for the new keyring password after you have deleted the keyring file.

Note: passwords will be stored in ~/.gnome2/keyrings as plain text.

marlonmin · #12 1st January 2010, 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JEO

Did you do an upgrade to F12 from a previous Fedora version or a fresh install? Perhaps there are still some old packages or config files around from a previous version of Fedora. The default.keyring file seems to be leftover from F10.

---------- Post added at 04:13 PM CST ---------- Previous post was at 04:11 PM CST ----------

You can do a quick test to see if it's a config file in your user directory or not. Create a new user, login under that one, and see if you get the same issue or not.

i will try. i install fresh f12, not upgrade. i will try.

***Dangermouse*** · #13 1st January 2010, 11:13 AM

If you want to get rid of the keyring altogether, then just delete the present stored passwords

Quote:

rm -rf ~/.gnome2/keyrings/*

and this time when it asks to set the keyring password, dont put anything, then you will get another popup asking do
you want to use unsafe storage.
This method is unsafe though if other people go on your account on your comp.
Another way is here that still works much safer but a little more work
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=172827

Edit also forgot to add that if you didnt have automatic login or timed etc enabled, it wouldnt of asked for the password in the first place.

marlonmin · #14 1st January 2010, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dangermouse

If you want to get rid of the keyring altogether, then just delete the present stored passwords
and this time when it asks to set the keyring password, dont put anything, then you will get another popup asking do
you want to use unsafe storage.
This method is unsafe though if other people go on your account on your comp.
Another way is here that still works much safer but a little more work
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=172827

Edit also forgot to add that if you didnt have automatic login or timed etc enabled, it wouldnt of asked for the password in the first place.

i checked some old posts regarding this problem, and found the same problem has been occurring since F9, or even earlier? what i don't understand is that why fedora developers can't fix this problem in such a long period? it should be a very small fix. it's simply because fedora is a free lunch?

DZ* · #15 1st January 2010, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DZ*

I got tired of this too, it made little sense to be asked for the password, since my install is encrypted. Then I found that it's possible to set the keyring password as empty: just hit Ok when prompted for the new keyring password after you have deleted the keyring file.

Note: passwords will be stored in ~/.gnome2/keyrings as plain text.

Just found out a better way of getting rid of the keyring password that doesn't erase saved passwords: start seahorse, right-click on "Passwords: login", type in the old password and leave out the (new) password entry empty.