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Old 2009-11-03, 03:48 PM CST
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How to get drivers for Realtek rtl8187se?

I am a complete n00b at linux usage so a complete walkthrough would be very helpful

thank you
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Old 2009-11-03, 04:22 PM CST
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Hello aweiss,

The driver for that chipset is not available in Fedora. Maybe someday. You can read what AdamW had to say about that in another thread here. But it is possible to get it working in Fedora with ndiswrapper and a Windows driver. You can read how 1337.HDLA did that in another thread here. Lastly, just in case it matters, Ubuntu and Mandriva have a driver for it.
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Old 2009-11-03, 04:51 PM CST
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Hello aweiss

Welcome to the forum.

I was involved in that second thread that 'stoat' mentions above.

It got a bit complicated for all sorts of reasons.

If it doesn't make much sense after reading, post back and I'll try and put it in some sort of order for you.
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Old 2009-11-03, 06:57 PM CST
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thanks for the help

I found a guide on how to use ndiswrapper, but I still don't really understand it and any help would be welcome.
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Old 2009-11-04, 03:16 AM CST
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Hello aweiss

Ndiswrapper used to be fairly simple, but a problem in recent times is that the precompiled versions from the rpm fusion repositories somtimes installs against the wrong kernel.

The first thing to do then is determine which kernel you are running:

Code:
uname -r
in a terminal window will give you all you need to know.

Then install the rpmfusion repositories. There are lots of programs there that don't match Fedora's strict licencing requirements and so are not included in the full distribution.

Code:
su -
That's a space and a minus sign after the su. It gives full root rights over the machine, not just over your own environment which is what you get with plain su.

Code:
rpm -Uvh http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-stable.noarch.rpm
Install ndiswrapper:

Code:
yum install kmod-ndiswrapper
or:

Code:
yum install kmod-ndiswrapper-PAE
depending on which kernel you discovered.

This should bring in the three relevant packages. Check that yum is offering to bring in three packages, if it doesn't, cancel the operation and we'll think again.

Then set up and configure ndiswrapper with:

Code:
ndiswrapper -i <path to your windows driver file>.inf
should install the driver,

Code:
ndiswrapper -l
if it is going to work should return "driver present" and "hardware present"

Code:
modprobe ndiswrapper
should load the driver into the kernel, but probably only until you reboot.

If you are lucky now and NetworkManager is running then after a short while it 'may' begin reporting wireless networks. NetworkManager is the preferred method of connecting to wireless networks with Fedora and should be located in the notification area of either KDE or Gnome just to the left of the clock.

Code:
service NetworkManager restart
may also be used to hurry NetworkManager along.

If it works, or indeed if it doesn't you will also need to run:

Code:
ndiswrapper -mi
to ensure the ndiswrapper module loads each time of booting.

Please remember that ndiswrapper is only happy with Windows XP/98 drivers and doesn't get on with Windows Vista drivers. Of those, it doesn't happily so-exist with all XP/98 drivers either. Be prepared to experiment if your original doesn't work.

Give that a go and see how far you get. Feel free to come back with any questions or problems.

Last edited by bbfuller; 2009-11-04 at 03:18 AM CST.
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Old 2009-11-04, 08:19 AM CST
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thanks

I'll give it a try when I get home
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Old 2009-11-04, 03:33 PM CST
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When I unzipped the file I downloaded for windows, a lot of files came out. Which one is the driver file?
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Old 2009-11-04, 03:45 PM CST
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I think I went wrong here:
[root@localhost ~]# ndiswrapper -i /aweiss/home/Realtek rtl8187se.sys
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Old 2009-11-04, 03:50 PM CST
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Then I tried this
ndiswrapper -i /aweiss/home/Realtek rtl8187se.inf
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Old 2009-11-04, 03:58 PM CST
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Hello aweiss

That's the form of the command you should be using:

Quote:
ndiswrapper -i /aweiss/home/Realtek rtl8187se.inf
but you will need all the other files in the same place as the .inf file. Ndiswrapper refers to at least the .sys file as well.
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Old 2009-11-04, 04:14 PM CST
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now it keeps saying THIS
couldn't open net8187Se.inf: No such file or directory at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 219.
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Old 2009-11-04, 04:17 PM CST
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[root@localhost ~]# ndiswrapper -i /Realtek rtl8187se.inf
install/manage Windows drivers for ndiswrapper

usage: ndiswrapper OPTION
-i inffile install driver described by 'inffile'
-a devid driver use installed 'driver' for 'devid' (dangerous)
-r driver remove 'driver'
-l list installed drivers
-m write configuration for modprobe
-ma write module alias configuration for all devices
-mi write module install configuration for all devices
-v report version information

where 'devid' is either PCIID or USBID of the form XXXX:XXXX,
as reported by 'lspci -n' or 'lsusb' for the card
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Old 2009-11-04, 04:21 PM CST
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Hello aweiss

M'mm, I copied and pasted your command without too much thought, it should read:

Quote:
ndiswrapper -i /aweiss/home/Realtek/rtl8187se.inf
Did you really unpack that file direct into your home directory and not into Downloads or somewhere similar.

It won't make any difference to it working just an odd place to do it.

I also notice that the error message reads 'net8187Se.inf' where earlier you specified 'net8187se.inf'.

They would be two completely different file names. In Linux everything is case sensitive, completely different to Windows.
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Old 2009-11-04, 04:44 PM CST
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hmm

I did unpack it into a folder called Realtek in my home folder. I noticed your case sensitibe remark, so I tried that, but it seems to not be able to find Realtek, so I moved the file into home. But I think that putting a whole path makes it not recognize the command, since it just takes me to a list of commands. The only time I get any sort of response is when all I put is a file name.
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Old 2009-11-04, 04:47 PM CST
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and it's Se, not se
[root@localhost ~]# ndiswrapper -i net8187Se.inf
couldn't open net8187Se.inf: No such file or directory at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 219.

[root@localhost ~]# ndiswrapper -i /home/ net8187Se.inf
install/manage Windows drivers for ndiswrapper

usage: ndiswrapper OPTION
-i inffile install driver described by 'inffile'
-a devid driver use installed 'driver' for 'devid' (dangerous)
-r driver remove 'driver'
-l list installed drivers
-m write configuration for modprobe
-ma write module alias configuration for all devices
-mi write module install configuration for all devices
-v report version information

where 'devid' is either PCIID or USBID of the form XXXX:XXXX,
as reported by 'lspci -n' or 'lsusb' for the card
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