New Kernel in Fedora 12 - Page 2

**AdamW** · #16 27th October 2009, 07:29 AM

you'd only have to temporarily disable it. they can't tell from the logs whether it's still installed. =)

**AdamW** · #17 27th October 2009, 07:29 AM

and yes, it should be somewhat quicker, as the debugging stuff has been turned off between 56 and 96.

leigh123linux · #18 27th October 2009, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by AdamW

you'd only have to temporarily disable it. they can't tell from the logs whether it's still installed. =)

Thanks for the info, where have they hidden the system log viewer , it seems to be missing?

pankajp · #19 27th October 2009, 08:05 AM

Hmm i've got a few problems with the new kernel on F12 on intel 965 laptop
1 > KMS did not start (saw the text progress bar on boot)
2 > Booting was definitely faster
3 > About graphics, just forget. I couldn't do anything on the new kernel. As i had gnome-shell enabled, nothing could be seen on the screen. Attaching a screenshot of that. (Will try again now after disabling gnome-shell)
4 > Switching to the text console (Ctrl-Alt-F2) was only possible once. Trying it again did not bring anything on the console.

EDIT: sorry for the noise. The problem was probably because i updated through yumex. I removed the kernel and reinstalled it again and the problem is gone now. (KMS is also working)

diamond_ramsey · #20 27th October 2009, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by AdamW

and yes, it should be somewhat quicker, as the debugging stuff has been turned off between 56 and 96.

AdamW, the 96 kernel is working very smoothly for me.

Did a yum update and all's well. I have two systems running for about 13 hours...see attached screen captures of the top output for memory usage at about 977556KB and 1402928KB usage respectively.

No errors to report.

Hope this helps.

**AdamW** · #21 27th October 2009, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by leigh123linux

Thanks for the info, where have they hidden the system log viewer , it seems to be missing?

Er, not sure what system log viewer you mean. I use the one called 'less'

As a general rule, you can use repoquery to search for a tool you know the executable filename for.

leigh123linux · #22 27th October 2009, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AdamW

Er, not sure what system log viewer you mean. I use the one called 'less'

As a general rule, you can use repoquery to search for a tool you know the executable filename for.

That's if you can remember what it is called

It was gnome-system-log, it's seems to be missing ( or not shown in the menu ) in F12.

cenomanien · #23 27th October 2009, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by leigh123linux

That's if you can remember what it is called

It was gnome-system-log, it's seems to be missing ( or not shown in the menu ) in F12.

It's a separate package now, I was looking for it some time ago.
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/r...?rpmID=1630530

**AdamW** · #24 27th October 2009, 08:57 PM

I was guessing that it'd be one of those, thanks for the info ceno!

CiaW · #25 28th October 2009, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by cenomanien

It's a separate package now, I was looking for it some time ago.
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/r...?rpmID=1630530

I was looking for it too. Thanks for the 411. I'll install it.

And it looks like there's a few updates to install too.

Boricua · #26 28th October 2009, 12:20 PM

With F12 64 bit I am getting some non requested logouts from the desktop to the login screen. It happened to me both with kernels 56 and 96, as well as with the most recent updates to gnome and xorg. It appears to be at random

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**AdamW** · #27 28th October 2009, 10:40 PM

that's probably X crashing, not a log out. Can you see if there's some /var/log/Xorg.*.log file with any error messages at the end, after it happens?

Boricua · #28 28th October 2009, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AdamW

that's probably X crashing, not a log out. Can you see if there's some /var/log/Xorg.*.log file with any error messages at the end, after it happens?

I checked Xorg.0.log and Xorg.9.log but found nothing suspicious. I will check again immediately after next crash. FWIW, I have an nvidia gforce 7500 running with nouveau. No special effects but metacity composite is active.

**AdamW** · #29 28th October 2009, 11:40 PM

you may need to boot to runlevel 3 and use 'startx' to get into X. That way, if it is X crashing, it won't automatically respawn and go back to gdm, it'll crash back to the console and you'll hopefully have console messages and an X log to explain what went wrong.

typerlc · #30 28th October 2009, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Francisco_PR

I checked Xorg.0.log and Xorg.9.log but found nothing suspicious. I will check again immediately after next crash. FWIW, I have an nvidia gforce 7500 running with nouveau. No special effects but metacity composite is active.

How much effort are you willing to put in to this? If you are technically competent, and willing, there is a better way. It requires running gdb on your X server after it starts to trap the crash and extract debug information.

I can provide more info if you want to attempt this. But it's not trivial, and it's easier (though not essential) if you have another PC that you can ssh from to login to the FC12 box.