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18th October 2009, 12:47 AM
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Todays Update and Panel Icons
After today's (20091017, 16:15PST) update, all of my panel icons are about twice as wide as they used to be. I'm running Gnome/Openbox in case that matters. What's up with that?
EDIT: Ok, the icons are the same size, but they must have a large border or something. They can't be squished together as much as before the update.
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18th October 2009, 03:16 AM
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Yeah, they tweaked the panel twice.
One was to reduce the default # of workspaces from 4 to 2.
Exactly the type of changes they are NOT supposed to do.
Although simple and easy, there are coded scripts controlling workspaces.
I use them for VM's, too.
That is why the changes need to be announced in pre and alpha and NOT added after the fact.
It breaks things.
I wonder if they will ever NOT break the release in this way before I die?
I'm not holding my breath, but I'm an biting my tongue and screaming bloody murder.
Dumb, just plan dumb.
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18th October 2009, 03:19 AM
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Isn't it difficult to scream while biting your tongue?
(I'm afraid to experiment myself, as I might hurt my tongue.)
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18th October 2009, 03:30 AM
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I takes pactice and I get a lot using Fedora raehide.
Here another round,
cron getting hosed from a compile to be used in a review.
How dumb is that?
I assume the review will fail? Should never have been in koji( without a different tag).
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18th October 2009, 03:51 AM
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makes you wonder what the initial beta will be like if they break that stuff
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18th October 2009, 04:01 AM
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Well, beta is frozen and is being polished to install and boot.
So if anaconda works, so goes the the first boot.
And I must say F12 fully updated is doing very well.
But the number of changes made that I would think is "to late for release" is very high.
So some programmers are spreading their luck very thin. 
(Of course, the norm is, it runs out just before release.)
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18th October 2009, 04:08 AM
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IMO will be a bad release time 1 day before Windows7 is officially released, i somehow think thats gonna dampen Fedora12's beta news
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18th October 2009, 04:23 AM
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lol, well we are out numbered 1,000 to 1. Or maybe 2,000 to 1,
Today we had heavy rain storms (rather existing after a record breaking 27 day 90+ summer).
So I was watching the regional weather channel and they said to be sure to tune in a 8:00 am on Monday for a preview of M$'s W7. I'm like, "WTF does that have to do with the weather? Then I thoht, oh!. Maybe they all get new hardware and big HD screens and they are exited about that, for change, rather than the weather.
It's every where. lol
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18th October 2009, 04:43 AM
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but talking bout the icons.. wasnt Gnome gonna make them bigger anyway? im sure i read that they were gonna be like 256x256 ..something like that
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18th October 2009, 05:04 AM
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I think that is gnome 3 shell, a bit of KDE Ketchup.
Monomaniacs are spies form M$. 
Big icons are the prelude to cell-phone apps.
A woman, rejected by some tv show for idea people, created a web site for women's inventions, ideas, products.
One woman has a cell-phone app to teach the alphabet to little kids.
I wonder what holograms will be embedded in with it from the iippss.
(You are lovin' it. Coke makes the world go round, got milk, Tobasco sauce, it'snot just hot, it's expense, oops, I mean goooood, you need a PRD drug, high txes and big government are a goo thing. Buy a gun, they are really pretty and shiny..)
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18th October 2009, 05:12 AM
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so i see
Future 2.x releases
Artwork
# Colorscheme support on themes and appearance capplet
# Dark widget theme
# Flat widget theme
# Compact widget theme for small screens
# Provide color variations on some of the existing themes
# Initial set of 256x256 icons
# Nicer GNOME Panel icons
# Update outdated desktop emblems
http://live.gnome.org/RoadMap
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18th October 2009, 06:42 AM
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Well, version 2.18.0.7 final broke something. (On the Pent III apollo-133 nouveau , it still works on the Pent IV 865 intel.)
The networkmanager notification icon. And Weather icon.
version 2.18.0.6 --oldpackage and it works for networkmanager but not weather..
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Last edited by SlowJet; 18th October 2009 at 06:47 AM.
Reason: And Weather icon.
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18th October 2009, 07:34 AM
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Also the little icon in the lower left on the gnome screen disappeared (I never used it, but, it was used to hide all windows and show the desktop).
Right clicking on the workspace icon, and choosing preferences, I changed the workspaces back to 4, default shouldn't be 2, geez.
I sort of like the icons spread out, I thought they looked larger also, but, maybe not.
I miss the changing wallpaper feature that the alpha release had. I want to see the Constantine and Brickwork wallpapers changing with what is now the Tile work in the mist wallpaper. (Or is it the fedora executive washroom after a hot shower wallpaper?)
OK, enough about the eye candy. All in all I think F12 is working pretty good. I haven't seen a bug in a couple of weeks now (Actually haven't come across a bug since system-config-firewall was fixed). Then again, I only play with it a couple hours a day. Maybe this week I'll try it as a full blown production box and see how it holds up. My only concern at this time is how easy it will be to update from F11 to F12. Been a fedora user only since June, the upgrade to F12 will be a major step for me.
Sorry, one more thing, how about some kmod or akmod nvidia. This close to release and no kmod's in repo? I mean nouveau seems to be working ok, but it would be nice to see the the whole package.
OK, enuf from me, off to bed.
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18th October 2009, 07:44 AM
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Yes, I didn't see that one.
It is gone on the Pent III.
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18th October 2009, 08:50 PM
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You can add Show Deskbacktop back to the panel, and it stays. I've no idea why it disappeared after the patch, but it's easy to restore.
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