Difference between Live vs. Install Media

LinuxDanP · #1 25th August 2009, 05:22 PM

What's the difference between the "Live" media, and the "Install" media? I'm not having any luck with the Fedora 11 Live media, so I thought I'd try the "Install" media instead. Where do I go to download that? And what's the difference between the two?

***bob*** · #2 25th August 2009, 05:37 PM

The Live CD has an installer built in, however it's only available using ext4, which requires an extra /boot partition (which is ext3). It's used to evaluate how well Fedora's likely to work with your hardware and for you to get the 'feel' of Fedora. The Install CD set is 6 CD's, I believe, and DVD are designed strictly for installation. Both can be installed as LVM, ext3 or other options. Click on the Fedora Jump link at the top of the page and select "get Fedora"

LinuxDanP · #3 25th August 2009, 05:50 PM

Thanks. I'll check it out.

scottro · #4 26th August 2009, 12:46 AM

This *may* (untested) be different in F12 alphas, which are now able to boot from ext4 partitions. (That part, the booting from ext4, I've tested--by untested, I mean I don't use the live stuff).

sixstring · #5 13th September 2009, 06:02 PM

Are there other differences in how the liveCD and the full install media actually run when installed onto a usb drive? Does the Live version write to disk less or some other efficiency that isn't immediately obvious?

I played with an IPSEC VPN on both and noticed the certificates aren't as secure on the Live version*. Are there other subtle differences with Live?

LinuxDanP, the full install CDs can be found here.

* - I was using the Openswan vpn package and noticed the full Install media uses a password protected NSS database to store the private encryption certificate, but the Live install does not. The Live version appeared to use standard certificates (hostkey.secrets). You can probably enable the database on the Live version to make them run the same, but it's a subtle difference between the default installations.

LinuxDanP · #6 13th September 2009, 07:34 PM

Thanks for the link, sixstring. I actually don't need the install media, I was able to get the problems taken care of. I don't know about of any efficiency differences between the two. I always use an install CD or DVD, so I don't know about USB differences either...

winux_wuver · #7 20th September 2009, 06:32 PM

Hi,
I use dial up and so I went ahead and ordered Fedora KDE Edition Live-64-bit platform DVD. I just installed it after following the instructions by partitioning (/boot to ext 3) and( / to ext4) as is the only way to install the live version.
I'm curious, though, as I would have liked the Install version, but OSdisc only lists Fedora 11. Would this be the Gnome desktop? I didn't see a Fedora 11 KDE install version, or does the 5 CD install discs or the DVD install disc contain a choice of desktops? If so, maybe I can exchange my Live disc. But, so far it is working fine.
Thanks,
w_w

JohnnyLinux · #8 21st September 2009, 05:42 AM

The DVD comes with both GNOME and KDE

After using the DVD because of install problems in Fedora 10, I will never go back to Live CD's for installations. Very handy selecting more software and is more customizable than the "little' 700Mb live CD

winux_wuver · #9 22nd September 2009, 01:38 PM

Thanks timmywerar,
I appreciate the answer!

vyverjet · #10 19th October 2009, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob

The Live CD has an installer built in, however it's only available using ext4, which requires an extra /boot partition (which is ext3). It's used to evaluate how well Fedora's likely to work with your hardware and for you to get the 'feel' of Fedora. The Install CD set is 6 CD's, I believe, and DVD are designed strictly for installation. Both can be installed as LVM, ext3 or other options. Click on the Fedora Jump link at the top of the page and select "get Fedora"

Dear LinuxDanP,
This happens to be my first post in Fedora forums! I had a bad trip with Ubuntu which was shipped free to me from Netherlands and the mistake i made was ---taking a direct plunge without testing the waters,so to speak( installed it and felt like a fish out of water)! I am an absolute non-geek as far as Linux is concerned and i should have familiarized myself with that distro before installing it!
Since i want a divorce from Windows AND am absolutely amazed with the Command Line Language of Linux, i have started reading up material about Linux Commands and that's where the Live CD came in as an excellent tool to test my language skills. I have downloaded (torrent) Fedora 11 i386 KDE Live CD and am using it. The ideal torrent download site:torrent.fedoraproject.org. Now the fear factor has gone and i feel (as BOB mentioned) okay with Fedora 11. The real important reason why i chose Fedora as the distro flavour was, my friend uses it and is just a mobile call away for advise! Thank you for the patient reading!

JohnnyLinux · #11 19th October 2009, 08:41 PM

Cool, Welcome vyverjet.

vyverjet · #12 20th October 2009, 01:58 AM

Dear timmywear,
thanks a lot! I am actually thinking of joining a course where they teach Linux (and specifically Fedora)! Windows has made me a dum boy!! Best wishes.