11 RC says can't install to bootable disk

pkands · #1 28th April 2009, 05:43 PM

When I try to install the 11RC (LIVE) to my sda4 partition I get a message saying that it can't be installed to a bootable disk. If I try to do it as ext3 I get a message saying that I can't install ext3 because the iso is ext4.
How do I install this?

thecdn · #2 29th April 2009, 03:31 AM

I have the same problem trying to install the kde rc on my sdb7 partition. A catch-22 situation of can't install ext4 to a boot partition, but have to install as ext4 because that is what the iso is and they have to be the same.

I too am looking for ideas to get around this.

bennachie · #3 29th April 2009, 04:24 AM

I wonder whether the problem that I have reported with mounting non-ext4 volumes while running under the LiveCD has a similar origin to the problems reported in this thread. An initial, and inexpert, conclusion might be that, for some reason, the LiveCD has shipped without the capacity to handle volumes in any format other than ext4.

The same problem seems to have arisen in both the Gnome and the KDE versions, so it's unlikely to be anything to do with the desktops themselves. Perhaps we can expect a rapid rebuild, and the early arrival of an RC2 set of images!

muggins · #4 29th April 2009, 06:02 AM

From what I understand, you need to create a separate boot partition with ext3, as grub does not yet support ext 4 in this release.

#5 29th April 2009, 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muggins

From what I understand, you need to create a separate boot partition with ext3, as grub does not yet support ext 4 in this release.

under my understanding. there is a patch for it

bennachie · #6 29th April 2009, 06:30 AM

One might be forgiven for wondering why the change in question was not applied in building the RC, given that the problem effectively prevents the system from being installed from a LiveCD (presumably the DVD works OK). Where can we find the relevant patch?

#7 29th April 2009, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennachie

One might be forgiven for wondering why the change in question was not applied in building the RC, given that the problem effectively prevents the system from being installed from a LiveCD (presumably the DVD works OK). Where can we find the relevant patch?

they should have added the patch directly to grub.

i just booted the liveCD of the Preview, ( not Release candidate ) IMO i would wait for the RC or better yet wait for the final

Compose & Stage Release Candidate 2009-05-12

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/11/Schedule

bennachie · #8 29th April 2009, 07:58 AM

That sounds like very good advice! I must admit that I originally thought the Preview was the Release Candidate, but you are, of course, correct. It's a bit hard for keen testers to give the system a thorough workout (as requested) when we can't actually install it ....

#9 29th April 2009, 08:06 AM

i did test out the LiveCD myself ( as i think i mentioned above ) im just annoyed i wasted my time at downloading it

. infact i think the Beta is/was more stable release than the preview

scotty38 · #10 29th April 2009, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demz

i did test out the LiveCD myself ( as i think i mentioned above ) im just annoyed i wasted my time at downloading it

.

Yep, another CD here that's about to be filed in /bin!

#11 29th April 2009, 08:19 AM

at this rate i'll be using fedora12 Alpha when its released

RahulSundaram · #12 29th April 2009, 08:44 AM

Hi,

I think there is some confusion over the switch to Ext4. FAQ at

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ext4_in_Fedora_11

#13 29th April 2009, 08:50 AM

that explains it.

Does GRUB support Ext4?

There is a patch in Red Hat Bugzilla to handle this. It has not been merged into GRUB however for this release cycle due to lack of time for comprehensive testing and prioritization of other more important fixes. Since Fedora uses LVM by default and GRUB doesn't support it either, in practise, you will still need to continue using Ext3 filesystem for /boot partition. It is the recommended setup and that's how Anaconda sets it up by default. Anaconda will not let you format a /boot partition with Ext4 to prevent any issues.

Live CD/DVD installer sets up /boot as a seperate partition formatted as Ext3. If you do not prefer this behaviour, you can use the regular CD/DVD or network boot images

i thought the patch was already in grub?.. my mistake

bennachie · #14 29th April 2009, 08:53 AM

I read the FAQ some time ago, but had forgotten they included a pointer to the patch.

All would presumably be well if the behaviour explained in the FAQ (which seemed to have been implemented successfully with the Beta Live CD) had been replicated in the Preview. However, there are two serious problems with the most recent version, the one set out in this thread and the (possibly related) problems that I, and presumably others, have experienced in mounting non-ext4 volumes when running in LiveCD mode.

Your response doesn't address either of these problems.

RahulSundaram · #15 29th April 2009, 09:09 AM

Hi,

if there are new bugs, file them in http://bugzilla.redhat.com. A FAQ is not needed on that.