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26th May 2009, 11:25 AM
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just out of curiosity. have you tried updating your BIOS for any realtek fix's
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26th May 2009, 11:37 AM
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just out of curiosity. have you tried updating your BIOS for any realtek fix's
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Well, that absurd recommendation if windows xp/7 and oss/alsa have no problems, then bios has nothing to do with pulseaudio bugginess.
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26th May 2009, 11:46 AM
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Well, that absurd recommendation if windows xp/7 and oss/alsa have no problems, then bios has nothing to do with pulseaudio bugginess.
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why would it be a Absurd recommendation? . windows corrects its own problems where as Linux IMO tends to rely on updated drivers/BIOS to work sufficiently. .. but if your having Sound issues an you use onboard sound a BIOS update probably wouldnt hurt,
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26th May 2009, 11:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Demz
... where as Linux IMO tends to rely on updated drivers/BIOS to work sufficiently...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HBeaumont
Well, that absurd recommendation if windows xp/7 and oss/alsa have no problems, then bios has nothing to do with pulseaudio bugginess.
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26th May 2009, 07:57 PM
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hbeau: do you get the skips playing just an audio file rather than a video?
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26th May 2009, 08:32 PM
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It seems to be VLC-only problem, but I need more testing time to be entirely sure. Meanwhile I opened bug report for skipping login sound.
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27th May 2009, 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by AdamW
I asked you specifically to file a bug report about that particular issue so it could be properly tracked, and you refused.
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Yes, I know. I have calmed down now since I reverted back to Fedora 10 (where Pulseaudio does not give kernel failures and where it can be uninstalled completely). I tried other distros and they just don't provide the features I need like Fedora does.
Anyway, I filed the bug report just a minute ago. Hopefully this will be fixed soon enough so that I wont be stuck on F10 forever.
Bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502698
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27th May 2009, 06:24 PM
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Where does PulseAudio get the device names from and is there a way to customise the labels?
Touch wood I've got PulseAudio working perfectly for the first time since Fedora 7/8, but the initial configuration was hampered due to both my soundcards being labelled Internal Audio in pavolumecontrol  . In previous releases the labels were closer to the results from inspecting the /proc data IIRC,
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$ more /proc/asound/cards
0 [Live ]: EMU10K1 - SB Live! Value [CT4670]
SB Live! Value [CT4670] (rev.4, serial:0x201102) at 0xe300, irq 18
1 [EMU1010 ]: Audigy2 - E-mu 1010 [MAEM8810]
E-mu 1010 [MAEM8810] (rev.3, serial:0x40011102) at 0xdc00, irq 19
For reference I'm running a 64bit KDE only install of the preview release, which is fully updated.
The EMU1010 (an E-mu 1820m) is my main cards, but its internal DSP routing needs changing after a fresh install because the default ALSA settings don't match those of the manufacturer's and hence my cabling. For example, ALSA sets the monitoring channel to output pair #1 instead of #4. In the past I've made the changes with a bit of trial and error using alsamixer, but this time I didn't know which soundcard I was selecting as for the default in PA so I had to check both at each step. That sort of thing gets boring very quickly, especially when I didn't know if I could trust pulseaudio to be working
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28th May 2009, 01:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BassHead
Where does PulseAudio get the device names from and is there a way to customise the labels?
Touch wood I've got PulseAudio working perfectly for the first time since Fedora 7/8, but the initial configuration was hampered due to both my soundcards being labelled Internal Audio in pavolumecontrol  . In previous releases the labels were closer to the results from inspecting the /proc data IIRC,
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$ more /proc/asound/cards
0 [Live ]: EMU10K1 - SB Live! Value [CT4670]
SB Live! Value [CT4670] (rev.4, serial:0x201102) at 0xe300, irq 18
1 [EMU1010 ]: Audigy2 - E-mu 1010 [MAEM8810]
E-mu 1010 [MAEM8810] (rev.3, serial:0x40011102) at 0xdc00, irq 19
For reference I'm running a 64bit KDE only install of the preview release, which is fully updated.
The EMU1010 (an E-mu 1820m) is my main cards, but its internal DSP routing needs changing after a fresh install because the default ALSA settings don't match those of the manufacturer's and hence my cabling. For example, ALSA sets the monitoring channel to output pair #1 instead of #4. In the past I've made the changes with a bit of trial and error using alsamixer, but this time I didn't know which soundcard I was selecting as for the default in PA so I had to check both at each step. That sort of thing gets boring very quickly, especially when I didn't know if I could trust pulseaudio to be working 
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Are you using analog or digital output with the SB Live? Either way, you should be getting kernel failure messages. You can fix it if using analog by defaulting PA to analog out. But if you're using digital, there seems to be no way around the kerneloops messages at this time.
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28th May 2009, 10:12 AM
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Neither rookcifer, under Fedora all the audio duties are handled by the E-mu card and the SBLive! is redundant. However thanks for the pointing that out, I guess it explains why I was getting KFMs before I'd configured the 1820m as the default.
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28th May 2009, 03:33 PM
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I have been trying to find a linux system that does everything I need out of the box (after installing and hopefully not spending a half day configuring necessary software) Fed 1 (five years ago) did just that! Then some upgrade later smashed something, as I recall the pkging system went and it was on to Deb and Ubuntu and so on through latest Mint, Mandriva and now back to Fed.
Many of these trials (including Fed 10) failed because of sound hicups. All are using pulse these days. So, I've tried everything else and am determined to get this working. Removing Pulse audio removed the hicups.
I am running Fed 10 for 386 (for flash reasons) on AMD Phenom Quad core in M3A motherboard. Sound Blaster.
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28th May 2009, 04:15 PM
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clean install
no-sound
players run real slow or hang at the end of a sound for a long time ( play /usr/share/sounds/pop.wav > 1min )
Code:
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82Q33 Express DRAM Controller (rev 02)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82Q33 Express PCI Express Root Port (rev 02)
00:03.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 82Q33 Express MEI Controller (rev 02)
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82566DM-2 Gigabit Network Connection (rev 02)
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02)
00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 02)
00:1a.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #6 (rev 02)
00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 02)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 02)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 92)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801IB (ICH9) LPC Interface Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801IB (ICH9) 2 port SATA IDE Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.5 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) 2 port SATA IDE Controller (rev 02)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3600 Series
01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RV635 Audio device [Radeon HD 3600 Series]
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28th May 2009, 04:40 PM
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To test if pulseaudio is the problem you can just do (as root)
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mv /etc/alsa/pulse-default.conf /etc/alsa/pulse-default.conf.x
then reboot or launch your problematic app (eg fluidsynth -a alsa and pSX emulator are two that have issues)
Then post a bugzilla.
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29th May 2009, 09:00 PM
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My issue seems to be related to my video card. This is a new machine. My sys-admin installed a Radeon 3650 graphics card which has DMI surround sound. This card disables the on-board sound.
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