New forum search engines added

[leigh123linux]

I have added a couple of new search engines to the forum search .

1. FedoraForum Search Engine
2. Bugzilla Fedora/RedHat Search Engine

awesome job but will anyone use them? speshally the bugzilla one, prolly not

[bob]

Bugzilla's a shortcut to help find if you're problem's unique. There have been times when I posted a problem and had someone mention "known issue - bug ....."

The real gem here is the tailored Google search! That's one heck of an engine and it's set up to search just our Forum. It's been available for a couple of years, but you had to go through the basement of Google to find it.

that should be pretty good but lets look at it on a brighter note, how many " newbs " will think about using that? hell some dont even bother to use google search before posting ,

lets see how effective it is, but IMO i think redtube.com will be more effective than the searches put there . im not saying its a bad idea that leigh did it, its about time the forum had that, just some dumb dumbs or " lazy " people wont bother to use those facilities

[scottro]

Well, it's like saying why do X? Problem Y will still exist.

One always has to start somewhere.

scott, forgive my ignorance but im sure someone made a googlebar extension for firefox for the exact same reason to lookup things fast. iv'e never had a problem with it . its the dodgy forum search thats been crap

[ilja]

As I see the problem, it is not about people not wanting to use the feature, but rather about the standard search engine being not functional. So even people who would rather like to use the search engine cannot get good results. Would not this new feature improve their lives?

[ilja]

Originally Posted by Demz

scott, forgive my ignorance but im sure someone made a googlebar extension for firefox for the exact same reason to lookup things fast. iv'e never had a problem with it . its the dodgy forum search thats been crap

So we do agree. It's actually like adding the "googlebar" to the forum.

Originally Posted by ilja

As I see the problem, it is not about people not wanting to use the feature, but rather about the standard search engine being not functional. So even people who would rather like to use the search engine cannot get good results. Would not this new feature improve their lives?

it prolly would improve there lives but as i stated in this thread above, how many dumb dumbs or lazy people use google search? its maybe a wasted effort on leighs behalf that he added it to the forum but only time will tell

[ilja]

Originally Posted by Demz

it prolly would improve there lives but as i stated in this thread above, how many dumb dumbs or lazy people use google search? its maybe a wasted effort on leighs behalf that he added it to the forum but only time will tell

Cool. So, we do agree, that once the hack is already done, it is ok like this? Or is there something, which should be improve on it?

Originally Posted by ilja

Cool. So, we do agree, that once the hack is already done, it is ok like this? Or is there something, which should be improve on it?

im not agreeing nore am i disagreeing. as i said only time will tell if these features wil make a difference, my guess is they prolly wont make a difference at all.

[ilja]

Originally Posted by Demz

im not agreeing nore am i disagreeing. as i said only time will tell if these features wil make a difference, my guess is they prolly wont make a difference at all.

Ok. That's a point.

if people cant type in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/ or http://google.com what makes you think there gonna clicck on the search facility an type in whatever there looking for? you might get the occasionaly brainy person that'll think of it an do it but that wont be many its gonna be a bit like this

[scottro]

Originally Posted by Demz

scott, forgive my ignorance but im sure someone made a googlebar extension for firefox for the exact same reason to lookup things fast. iv'e never had a problem with it . its the dodgy forum search thats been crap

Could be, but I use opera. <shrug>.

It's also easier to tell someone use the fora's built in bugzilla search feature rather than say use the googlebar extension, and then have to answer when they say, "How do I do that?"

(A question which I wouldn't be able to answer as I use opera.)

As for people not using it, well, first they'll ask the question, then have it, hopefully kindly, suggested to them that they make use of it. As you say, only time will tell and it certainly has potental.

[ilja]

Originally Posted by Demz

if people cant type in http://redhat.bugzilla.com/ orhttp://google.com what makes you think there gonna clicck on the search facility an type in whatever there looking for? you might get the occasionaly brainy person that'll think of it an do it but that wont be many

1) You have a negative picture of the people But I do agree with the point you make.
2) We do agree, that the standard Vbulletin search engine is crap?
Now how can it be improved. One way would be to work on the searchengine itself. Try to install a plugin, which makes it more powerfull. Another way is to outsource it to google. The latter is what we decided to do.
The question now to the crowd out there: Is it ok, that we did it? And how can it be improved.
If not, what would be the alternative to it. We are aware, that the user base has a solid technical know-how. This is why the input is much appreciated.