Belkin F5D7050 USB wireless problem (FC10)

lloydwatkin · #1 7th March 2009, 06:37 PM

Hi,

I've spent hours trying to sort this one out and its becoming annoying. Before we start I am a newbie to networking with linux. I play with apache configs and I've done bits and pieces with unix shell scripting and compiling but not much else.

Anyway, my first linux machine, downloaded FC10 and installed. Worked a treat wireless up and running without any issues. Allowed updates to happen, on next boot wireless gone. Several hours later I decide to start again to try and find out what happened. Fresh install, all up and running nicely.

I let the system install all the updates again, then on reboot wireless isn't working. I'm using a Belkin F5D7050 USB.

If I visit NetworkManager in the top bar the 'enable wireless' tickbox is gone.
In system->network->devices there's just 'eth0 inactive'
If I go to the hardware tab I see

| Ethernet | pan0
VIA technologies | Ethernet | eth0
Belkin componenets F5D7050A Wireless | Wireless | wlan0
rt73usb | Wireless | wlan0

Can anyone help with what is going on here? Like i said handholding will be nessecary and I'll provide as much info as possible.

Doing 'lsusb' shows the devide (Bus 002 Device 003: ID 050d:705a Belkin Comp.....)

Thanks, Lloyd.

lloydwatkin · #2 7th March 2009, 08:52 PM

If it helps the response of "uname -r" is...

2.6.27.19-170.2.35.fc10.i686

lloydwatkin · #3 8th March 2009, 07:27 PM

Some more info:

Code:

1.
      [root@deepexplorer ~]# rpm -qa | grep kernel | sort
   2.
      kernel-2.6.27.19-170.2.35.fc10.i686
   3.
      kernel-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686
   4.
      kernel-devel-2.6.27.19-170.2.35.fc10.i686
   5.
      kernel-devel-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686
   6.
      kernel-firmware-2.6.27.19-170.2.35.fc10.noarch
   7.
      kernel-headers-2.6.27.19-170.2.35.fc10.i386
   8.
      kerneloops-0.12-1.fc10.i386

and...

Code:

[root@deepexplorer ~]# lsusb
Bus 002 Device 003: ID 050d:705a Belkin Components F5D7050A Wireless Adapter
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 006 Device 002: ID 045e:00d2 Microsoft Corp. 
Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub

lloydwatkin · #4 8th March 2009, 07:54 PM

Code:

..
hub 5-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 5-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
usb 2-3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
usb 2-3: New USB device found, idVendor=050d, idProduct=705a
usb 2-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
usb 2-3: Product: Belkin 54g USB Network Adapter
usb 2-3: Manufacturer: Belkin
usb usb5: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0001
usb usb5: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1
usb usb5: Product: OHCI Host Controller
usb usb5: Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.27.19-170.2.35.fc10.i686 ohci_hcd
usb usb5: SerialNumber: 0000:00:08.2
USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v3.0
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LNKA] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.0: UHCI Host Controller
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 6
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.0: irq 11, io base 0x0000c800
usb usb6: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
hub 6-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 6-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
usb usb6: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0001
usb usb6: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1
usb usb6: Product: UHCI Host Controller
usb usb6: Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.27.19-170.2.35.fc10.i686 uhci_hcd
usb usb6: SerialNumber: 0000:00:10.0
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.1: PCI INT B -> Link[LNKB] -> GSI 5 (level, low) -> IRQ 5
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.1: UHCI Host Controller
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.1: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 7
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.1: irq 5, io base 0x0000cc00
usb usb7: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
hub 7-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 7-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
usb 6-2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
usb usb7: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0001
usb usb7: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1
usb usb7: Product: UHCI Host Controller
usb usb7: Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.27.19-170.2.35.fc10.i686 uhci_hcd
usb usb7: SerialNumber: 0000:00:10.1
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.2: PCI INT C -> Link[LNKC] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.2: UHCI Host Controller
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 8
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.2: irq 10, io base 0x0000d000
usb usb8: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
hub 8-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 8-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
usb 6-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
usb 6-2: New USB device found, idVendor=045e, idProduct=00d2
usb 6-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
usb 6-2: Product: Microsoft Notebook Optical Mouse with Tilt Wheel
usb 6-2: Manufacturer: Microsoft
usb usb8: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0001
usb usb8: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1
usb usb8: Product: UHCI Host Controller
usb usb8: Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.27.19-170.2.35.fc10.i686 uhci_hcd
usb usb8: SerialNumber: 0000:00:10.2
PNP: PS/2 Controller [PNP0303:PS2K] at 0x60,0x64 irq 1
PNP: PS/2 appears to have AUX port disabled, if this is incorrect please boot with i8042.nopnp
serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1
mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
rtc_cmos 00:05: rtc core: registered rtc_cmos as rtc0
rtc0: alarms up to one year, y3k
device-mapper: uevent: version 1.0.3
device-mapper: ioctl: 4.14.0-ioctl (2008-04-23) initialised: dm-devel@redhat.com
cpuidle: using governor ladder
cpuidle: using governor menu
usbcore: registered new interface driver hiddev
Marking TSC unstable due to TSC halts in idle
input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /devices/platform/i8042/serio0/input/input4
input: Microsoft Microsoft Notebook Optical Mouse with Tilt Wheel as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:10.0/usb6/6-2/6-2:1.0/input/input5
input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [Microsoft Microsoft Notebook Optical Mouse with Tilt Wheel] on usb-0000:00:10.0-2
usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid
usbhid: v2.6:USB HID core driver
nf_conntrack version 0.5.0 (16384 buckets, 65536 max)
CONFIG_NF_CT_ACCT is deprecated and will be removed soon. Plase use
nf_conntrack.acct=1 kernel paramater, acct=1 nf_conntrack module option or
sysctl net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_acct=1 to enable it.
ip_tables: (C) 2000-2006 Netfilter Core Team
TCP cubic registered
Initializing XFRM netlink socket
NET: Registered protocol family 17
Using IPI No-Shortcut mode
registered taskstats version 1
  Magic number: 1:2:188
Freeing unused kernel memory: 416k freed
Write protecting the kernel text: 2748k
Write protecting the kernel read-only data: 1176k
[drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
pci 0000:01:00.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LNKA] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
[drm] Initialized radeon 1.29.0 20080528 on minor 0
pata_via 0000:00:11.1: version 0.3.3
pata_via 0000:00:11.1: PCI INT A -> Link[LNKA] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
pata_via 0000:00:11.1: VIA VLink IRQ fixup, from 255 to 11
scsi0 : pata_via
scsi1 : pata_via
ata1: PATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x1f0 ctl 0x3f6 bmdma 0xd400 irq 14
ata2: PATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x170 ctl 0x376 bmdma 0xd408 irq 15
ata1.00: ATA-6: HDS722512VLAT80, V33OA60A, max UDMA/100
ata1.00: 241254720 sectors, multi 16: LBA48 
ata1.00: configured for UDMA/100
ata2.00: ATAPI: JLMS XJ-HD166S, DS18, max UDMA/33
ata2.01: ATAPI: HP      DVD Writer 840b, FF66, max UDMA/33
ata2.00: configured for UDMA/33
ata2.01: configured for UDMA/33
scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access     ATA      HDS722512VLAT80  V33O PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 241254720 512-byte hardware sectors (123522 MB)
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 241254720 512-byte hardware sectors (123522 MB)
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
 sda: sda1 sda2
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
scsi 1:0:0:0: CD-ROM            JLMS     XJ-HD166S        DS18 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
sr 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0
sr 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 5
scsi 1:0:1:0: CD-ROM            HP       DVD Writer 840b  FF66 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
sr1: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
sr 1:0:1:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr1
sr 1:0:1:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 5
kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
SELinux: 8192 avtab hash slots, 112410 rules.
SELinux: 8192 avtab hash slots, 112410 rules.
SELinux:  8 users, 11 roles, 2581 types, 121 bools, 1 sens, 1024 cats
SELinux:  73 classes, 112410 rules
SELinux:  Completing initialization.
SELinux:  Setting up existing superblocks.
SELinux: initialized (dev dm-0, type ext3), uses xattr
SELinux: initialized (dev tmpfs, type tmpfs), uses transition SIDs
SELinux: initialized (dev usbfs, type usbfs), uses genfs_contexts
SELinux: initialized (dev selinuxfs, type selinuxfs), uses genfs_contexts
SELinux: initialized (dev mqueue, type mqueue), uses transition SIDs
SELinux: initialized (dev hugetlbfs, type hugetlbfs), uses genfs_contexts
SELinux: initialized (dev devpts, type devpts), uses transition SIDs
SELinux: initialized (dev inotifyfs, type inotifyfs), uses genfs_contexts
SELinux: initialized (dev tmpfs, type tmpfs), uses transition SIDs
SELinux: initialized (dev anon_inodefs, type anon_inodefs), uses genfs_contexts
SELinux: initialized (dev pipefs, type pipefs), uses task SIDs
SELinux: initialized (dev debugfs, type debugfs), uses genfs_contexts
SELinux: initialized (dev sockfs, type sockfs), uses task SIDs
SELinux: initialized (dev proc, type proc), uses genfs_contexts
SELinux: initialized (dev bdev, type bdev), uses genfs_contexts
SELinux: initialized (dev rootfs, type rootfs), uses genfs_contexts
SELinux: initialized (dev sysfs, type sysfs), uses genfs_contexts
type=1403 audit(1236532164.656:2): policy loaded auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295
udevd version 127 started
parport_pc 00:0a: reported by Plug and Play ACPI
parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7 [PCSPP,TRISTATE]
pata_sil680 0000:00:0c.0: version 0.4.8
pata_sil680 0000:00:0c.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LNKA] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
sil680: 133MHz clock.
scsi2 : pata_sil680
scsi3 : pata_sil680
ata3: PATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xb400 ctl 0xb800 bmdma 0xc400 irq 11
ata4: PATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xbc00 ctl 0xc000 bmdma 0xc408 irq 11
ata3.00: ATA-7: Maxtor 6Y120L0, YAR41BW0, max UDMA/133
ata3.00: 240121728 sectors, multi 16: LBA 
ata3.00: configured for UDMA/133
scsi 2:0:0:0: Direct-Access     ATA      Maxtor 6Y120L0   YAR4 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] 240121728 512-byte hardware sectors (122942 MB)
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] 240121728 512-byte hardware sectors (122942 MB)
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
 sdb: sdb1
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0
NET: Registered protocol family 23
via-rhine.c:v1.10-LK1.4.3 2007-03-06 Written by Donald Becker
via-rhine: Broken BIOS detected, avoid_D3 enabled.
via-rhine 0000:00:12.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LNKA] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
eth0: VIA Rhine II at 0xe4006000, 00:0d:87:af:f9:99, IRQ 11.
eth0: MII PHY found at address 1, status 0x786d advertising 05e1 Link 41e1.
input: PC Speaker as /devices/platform/pcspkr/input/input6
phy0: Selected rate control algorithm 'pid'
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077

lloydwatkin · #5 8th March 2009, 07:57 PM

Code:

[root@deepexplorer ~]# ifconfig -a

wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1C:DF:9E:30:7A  
          BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)

wmaster0  Link encap:UNSPEC  HWaddr 00-1C-DF-9E-30-7A-F4-FF-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00  
          BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)

lloydwatkin · #6 8th March 2009, 07:59 PM

Code:

[root@deepexplorer ~]# iwconfig
lo        no wireless extensions.

eth0      no wireless extensions.

wmaster0  no wireless extensions.

wlan0     IEEE 802.11bg  ESSID:""  
          Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated   
          Tx-Power=0 dBm   
          Retry min limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr=2352 B   
          Encryption key:off
          Power Management:off
          Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
          Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
          Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0

stoat · #7 9th March 2009, 12:23 AM

Hello lloydwatkin,

I don't know what has gone wrong there. But apparently nobody else knows either. I don't use Ralink chipsets, so I can just tell you what I would try if I did and this happened to me.

Confirm that the driver module is loading. The list produced by the following command should include the rt73usb module and probably a couple more Ralink driver modules...
Code:
```
/sbin/lsmod | sort
```
If the module is not loading, try manually loading it and see what that does...
Code:
```
su
/sbin/modprobe rt73usb
```
Confirm that the rt73usb firmware is installed. Both of the following should list something related to the firmware required by the driver...
Code:
```
rpm -qa | grep rt73
ls /lib/firmware | grep rt73
```
If you are (or were) using NetworkManager, then for now I would forget about the Network Configuration utility (system-config-network) and not worry about what you see or don't see there.
If everything so far checked out, then ensure the NetworkManager service is enabled. Then try restarting it and look for your network (router SSID) in NetworkManager's list of available networks (left-click its panel tray icon)...
Code:
```
su
chkconfig NetworkManager on
service NetworkManager restart
```
If your router is not broadcasting its SSID, then I recommend turning that on. If you insist that it be turned off, then left-click the NetworkManager panel tray icon and choose "Connect to hidden wireless network".
If the device is external, see if there is a difference in booting with it connected and disconnected.
Make sure that there is not some switch disabling the radio or its antenna. Either a real switch somewhere on the device or something in BIOS. It's even not unheard of for Windows to disable a wireless card as it shuts down making the card not work when the computer is rebooted into Linux. That can be disabled.

I'm sorta out of ideas now. No promises, of course, for any of this. They're just things that would occur to me to try.

lloydwatkin · #8 9th March 2009, 09:08 AM

Cheers Stoat, I'll run through those points this evening and post my findings.

Lloyd

lloydwatkin · #9 9th March 2009, 10:46 PM

Ok as promised....
1. Drivers seem to be running...

Code:

[root@deepexplorer ~]# /sbin/lsmod | sort
ac97_bus                5504  1 snd_ac97_codec
arc4                    5760  2 
ata_generic             8452  0 
bluetooth              48608  5 sco,bnep,l2cap
bnep                   14848  2 
bridge                 43668  0 
cfg80211               23816  2 rt2x00lib,mac80211
crc_ccitt               5760  1 irda
crc_itu_t               5760  1 rt73usb
crypto_blkcipher       18052  1 ecb
dm_multipath           17164  0 
drm                   157364  3 radeon
ecb                     6528  2 
floppy                 51988  0 
fuse                   49436  4 
gameport               13452  1 snd_via82xx
i2c_algo_bit            8836  1 radeon
i2c_core               21268  4 i2c_viapro,radeon,drm,i2c_algo_bit
i2c_viapro             10772  0 
ip6table_filter         6400  1 
ip6_tables             14736  1 ip6table_filter
ip6t_REJECT             7296  2 
ipv6                  230388  20 ip6t_REJECT,nf_conntrack_ipv6
irda                   95240  1 via_ircc
l2cap                  21504  3 bnep
mac80211              173668  2 rt2x00usb,rt2x00lib
mii                     8192  1 via_rhine
Module                  Size  Used by
nf_conntrack_ipv6      15864  2 
parport                31956  2 ppdev,parport_pc
parport_pc             25620  0 
pata_acpi               7680  0 
pata_sil680             9604  1 
pata_via               11908  2 
pcspkr                  6272  0 
ppdev                  10372  0 
radeon                237144  2 
rfkill                 11160  1 rt2x00lib
rt2x00lib              33536  2 rt73usb,rt2x00usb
rt2x00usb              12160  1 rt73usb
rt73                  185148  0 
rt73usb                23680  0 
sco                    12932  2 
snd                    50616  18 snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device
snd_ac97_codec         95268  1 snd_via82xx
snd_mixer_oss          16896  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_mpu401_uart        10368  1 snd_via82xx
snd_page_alloc         11016  2 snd_via82xx,snd_pcm
snd_pcm                65924  3 snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm_oss            42496  0 
snd_rawmidi            22528  1 snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq                48576  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device         10124  4 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi
snd_seq_dummy           6660  0 
snd_seq_midi_event      9600  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq_oss            30364  0 
snd_timer              22024  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_via82xx            25752  3 
soundcore               9416  1 snd
stp                     6148  1 bridge
sunrpc                156052  3 
uinput                 10624  0 
via_ircc               19604  0 
via_rhine              23560  0

2.

Code:

/sbin/modprobe rt73usb

No need to ran , but did so anyway, no effect

3.

Code:

[root@deepexplorer ~]# rpm -qa | grep rt73
rt73usb-firmware-1.8-4.noarch
[root@deepexplorer ~]# ls /lib/firmware/ | grep rt73
rt73.bin
[root@deepexplorer ~]#

4. I am using NetworkManager

5. Done with no effect

6. Router is broadcasting SSID.
7. Tried no effect
8. No windows on the system. It worked before updates and stopped working afterwards.

Any other ideas from anyone?

lloydwatkin · #10 9th March 2009, 10:54 PM

I include a couple of other commands suggested by a colleague:

Code:

[root@deepexplorer network-scripts]# more ifcfg-wlan0 
# Please read /usr/share/doc/initscripts-*/sysconfig.txt
# for the documentation of these parameters.
TYPE=Wireless
DEVICE=wlan0
HWADDR=00:1c:df:9e:30:7a
BOOTPROTO=dhcp
ONBOOT=no
USERCTL=no
PEERDNS=yes
IPV6INIT=no
ESSID=
CHANNEL=
MODE=Managed
RATE=auto

I can confirm that is the correct mac address (must of been entered automatically)

lloydwatkin · #11 11th March 2009, 08:59 PM

After a reinstall I note that in my hardward config I no longer have rt73usb listed as wlan0 hardware just the 'Belkin.....' wlan0.

Also when I look at /sbin/lsmod the only difference is the lack of rt2500usb in the list.

I'm running updates again to see what happens...

lloydwatkin · #12 12th March 2009, 09:12 AM

I allowed the machine to perform all updates last night, everything is working fine this morning.

Therefore I put it down to something that dangermouse's autoten does while performing the install. I'll get together all the info I can and post it up on his forum for his information.

Thanks for the help I received via the forum and #fedora irc.

Lloyd