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Old 3rd September 2004, 03:38 PM
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My first 30 days with FC2

First of all, I got a copy of SuSe and FC2 with a magazine. SuSe was a Live CD so I used it to play around with Linux and to see what I could expect. I had always intended to install FC2. My research told me it was the best distro - though it was close.

I read this forum thoroughly and took my first steps gingerly.

The first issue I had to work through was the dual-booting issue. I read that sometimes the install would change my harddrive parameters and make the XP partition unbootable. I decided to take the advised precautions rather than try to fix it after the fact.

My install went pretty well and XP would dual boot. Victory #1 and I was pleased.

Up2date configured itself and downloaded and installed everything I needed to update my install. Victory #2.

The first problem I encountered was that my monitor would not line up properly in FC2. It was too far right leaving a black band about 2" wide down the left side. It was centered properly in the vertical. I could manually adjust it but then XP was off.

My video card is an Nvidia so I did some reading and decided I wanted to download and install the updated Nvidia driver for Linux. However, after some more reading I realized that was pretty complicated because I had to edit configuration files. So I read some more. Then I discovered Yum and Apt-Get. I found out what "RPM" meant so I decided to wait and see if someone would come out with Nvidia drivers as RPMs.

In the meantime, I discovered a little utility that came with Linux called "xvidtune." I was able to realign my display without using the manual controls on the monitor. Victory #3

Next I learned about terminal and "going root." I read some about the *.conf files and which ones did what and where they are located. I learned how to open an "editor" to make changes to Up2date and Yum to add repositories. Then I took a look at some of the other files. My first attempts to edit these files caused some problems. I was able to get the syntax right but I still got some errors. Nothing would download. Then I read about GPG-KEY.txt files.

I imported the KEYS and worked on the yum.conf file and got it to work. Victory #4

Then I found RPM versions of the Nvidia drivers on Livna.org. I decided to use the RPMs so I typed "yum install nvidia." No luck. I went to the ftp site for Livna and found out that the file is actually called nvidia-glx. So I went back to the terminal and typed that command. It worked!! I also downloaded the MP3 plugin, Firefox, Macromedia Flash plugin, and Gnome-extras. At first the Nvidia driver would not work. What I found was that even though I downloaded the RPMs I still had to go back and edit the *.conf file to change "nv" to Nvidia and then restart X. It worked!! Victory #5. Well, almost.

The display still won't center properly and there does not seem to be an Nvidia utility that does this. I had to use "xvidtune." This is still a problem. I am looking to see if there is a configuration file for this that I can manually edit and input the proper display settings. I won't call this a "Loss" yet.

Anyway the second issue was sound. When I ran the SuSe Live CD I had sound, but when I installed FC2 I had no sound. I heard everything from I needed an audio cable to I needed different drivers. After I downloaded the XMMS.mp3 plugin I just started fooling around with the mixer settings in Gnome and running "Alsamixer" in terminal mode and finally it started working. I have no idea what I did right. Victory #6. I have sound!!

A related problem is the default CD player. Gnome starts its own CD player and there is no sound there. XMMS does not start by default when I insert an Audio CD and the only way I have found to manually start it is more complicated than it should be. I found the place to enter the command to start XMMS, but I cannot figure out the proper command. Still not a "Loss" because I know it can be done.

Fonts are also a problem. I have installed some new fonts from a Wordperfect CD, but I want the Windows Core fonts installed. I have instructions on how to do this (mount the XP partition) so I'm not worried. Once I do this I'll copy my files (as well as fonts) from my XP partition.

I also don't have a driver for my Lexmark multi-function printer. (X6150) I have not experimented with other Lexmark printer drivers, but I know the fax and scan functions will not be available. That is a shame because its a good printer. The good news is I have an HP 5500 and it is supported by Linux. Loss #1

The last issue I am dealing with is Email. I am using Ximian Evolution and though I can send mail I cannot receive it. It says my username or password are incorrect. I've checked them several times and they are not wrong. Somewhere I am missing a setting in the email setup.

So all I have to do now is: (1) fix the display settings so they will save between uses; (2) get XMMS to start as the default music CD player; (3) get my email account setup properly; (4) install Windows core fonts and copy XP files over (mount the XP partition); and (5) get a printer working.

Once this is done its goodbye Windows!!

By the way. I have played around with Gnome and KDE. KDE takes too long to load up and Gnome does not have many built-in themes and no wallpaper. Its just a plain vanilla desktop. However, FC2 tries to incorporate the best of both by default and I can download some themes for Gnome if I want to. In my opinion Gnome is better because it uses less resources and is faster. All of the apps are available in Gnome.

OpenOffice is great. I can't wait to see how my MS Office Docs look.

I also like Firefox. The plain Mozilla Web Browser was OK and I could have lived with it, but Firefox has a better appearance. All I need is an Adobe Acrobat reader. I have not found an RPM version so if anyone knows of one let me know.

This is my first 30 days with Linux Fedora Core 2.

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Old 3rd September 2004, 04:14 PM
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There is a Acrobat Reader package called acroread try, apt-get install acroread
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Old 3rd September 2004, 05:30 PM
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The last issue I am dealing with is Email. I am using Ximian Evolution and though I can send mail I cannot receive it. It says my username or password are incorrect. I've checked them several times and they are not wrong. Somewhere I am missing a setting in the email setup.
Tried using Thunderbird? Another great product from the Mozilla people.
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Old 3rd September 2004, 06:00 PM
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There is a Acrobat Reader package called acroread try, apt-get install acroread
Thanks. I'll have to check Livna.org for the exact name of the file because I got nothing with "acroread."
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Old 3rd September 2004, 06:01 PM
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Tried using Thunderbird? Another great product from the Mozilla people.
No, but I saw something about it. I'll give it a try. Maybe this is a bug with Ximian.
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Old 3rd September 2004, 07:18 PM
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i also had a printer not supported by linux so it was a lost for the maker ( i sold) i used my cannon bjc3000 which is supported by linux.

i like evoltion a lot, check your POP setting they may wrong, if it's telling you username and password are incorrect, so yes the settings are incorrect.

before you came to linux you only owned the window NOW you can say and claim you own the house and the keys......so you WON more then what you lost
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Old 5th September 2004, 12:48 AM
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dag has acroread...

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Thanks. I'll have to check Livna.org for the exact name of the file because I got nothing with "acroread."
Dag Wieers' repository has acroread 5.0.9 (don't get me going about why Adobe can't be bothered to release Acrobat Reader 6 for Linux - very poor of them indeed really).
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Old 5th September 2004, 09:40 AM
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And about the font issues, there is a microsoft core font rpm available: http://webperf.org/msfonts/msfonts-1.2.1-1.noarch.rpm
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are the fonts cute?
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They're microsoft core fonts. Times New Roman, Arial, Courier, Tahoma and so on.
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have no tried them yet but will soon...........
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Psquared, what precautions did you take with the partitioning, I am going to do the same as you have done and am just starting to prepare.
I have a live cd from Suse, I will give it a whirl before 'D Day'. I should get some idea of hardware detction etc.
I hope my transition is as smooth as yours!

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Old 7th September 2004, 08:13 PM
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Psquared, what precautions did you take with the partitioning, I am going to do the same as you have done and am just starting to prepare.
I have a live cd from Suse, I will give it a whirl before 'D Day'. I should get some idea of hardware detction etc.
I hope my transition is as smooth as yours!
I used partition magic to reduce the size of my Windows partition. I have a 60 gig harddrive, so I split it between XP and FC2.

I also found out my harddrive parameters (I have forgotten the command but I have it written down somewhere) and when I ran the install I put in those parameters to make sure the installer didn't screw up my XP partition. XP can become unbootable if you do this wrong and the fix is a lot more complex than the precaution.

I also got the Live CD from SuSe and tried it first. It seemed like a harmless way to get a feel for what Linux was like.

BTW, the default for FC2 is "gnome" and I would advise sticking with it. KDE requires more memory and does not provide any additional functionality. I like the way Gnome starts so fast.

I've got a question for you. I gave my son the SuSe live CD, but I didn't give him the instructions. What do you enter when it asks for username and password?? Its something generic but I can't remember what it is and he can run the Live CD.

Thanks.
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Old 8th September 2004, 12:21 AM
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I will grab a copy of Partition magic and give myself a 50/50 split, 20 gb for each system is plenty for me. The hard drive parameters thing frightens me a bit. I will have to find out what it means and then do as you did. Thanks for the help.
I have not run the live cd yet, and probably wont get around to it for a few days yet, the magazine it came with....., well my 15 month old son found it and 'played' with it. Who needs a shredder?!
I dont know anything about the generic user name and password, sorry.
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Old 8th September 2004, 01:00 AM
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I will grab a copy of Partition magic and give myself a 50/50 split, 20 gb for each system is plenty for me. The hard drive parameters thing frightens me a bit. I will have to find out what it means and then do as you did. Thanks for the help.
I have not run the live cd yet, and probably wont get around to it for a few days yet, the magazine it came with....., well my 15 month old son found it and 'played' with it. Who needs a shredder?!
I dont know anything about the generic user name and password, sorry.
Do a search or go to the "how to" section for the drive partition issue. The instructions are pretty simple. When I got to that part in the install I just accepted the default for FC2. I figure I can always go back and change that later.

Good luck.

PS. If you have an Nvidia video card read about that part too.
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