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Old 2nd March 2009, 09:43 PM
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I don't know where to post this. This isn't exactly a guide. More of a tip, if even that. I am definitely asking for participation.

As several have experienced, and you all have observed, several of you have experienced your gui going nuts with the most recent upgrade of the kernel. Some have also experienced this with sound. You all have seen how I've resolved a few threads on the subjects. I went and applied the update as well, and experienced the same thing.

I have been running nvidia-180, and up until the recent kernel update, was working fine. What I did to get it working again was install nvidia-177. Now I noticed how prior to going to 177, the messages said nvidia.ko doesn't exist. It seems files are being moved or deleted.

I ask that as many of us that have experienced this, please post bug reports.

The way I see it, you have two options, back down your nvidia drivers, as I did, or uninstall the latest kernel and reinstall the previous kernel.

kernel-2.6.27.19-170.2.35 is the most current.
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Old 2nd March 2009, 09:57 PM
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I don't know where to post this. This isn't exactly a guide. More of a tip, if even that. I am definitely asking for participation.

As several have experienced, and you all have observed, several of you have experienced your gui going nuts with the most recent upgrade of the kernel. Some have also experienced this with sound. You all have seen how I've resolved a few threads on the subjects. I went and applied the update as well, and experienced the same thing.

I have been running nvidia-180, and up until the recent kernel update, was working fine. What I did to get it working again was install nvidia-177. Now I noticed how prior to going to 177, the messages said nvidia.ko doesn't exist. It seems files are being moved or deleted.

I ask that as many of us that have experienced this, please post bug reports.

The way I see it, you have two options, back down your nvidia drivers, as I did, or uninstall the latest kernel and reinstall the previous kernel.

kernel-2.6.27.19-170.2.35 is the most current.
Or grab the latest 2.6.29 kernel from Koji
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Old 2nd March 2009, 10:00 PM
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Or grab the latest 2.6.29 kernel from Koji
That's in updates-testing right? Will that work on a F10 system?
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Old 2nd March 2009, 10:15 PM
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That's in updates-testing right? Will that work on a F10 system?

It's pre updates-testing

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/b...?buildID=91950

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/p...fo?packageID=8


Avoid the 2.6.28 kernels as they suck, all the 2.6.29 kernels that I have tested have worked OK with the 180 nvidia driver series.
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Old 2nd March 2009, 10:17 PM
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That's in updates-testing right? Will that work on a F10 system?
no, its in koji http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/b...?buildID=91950
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Old 3rd March 2009, 01:54 AM
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How do I add koji as a repo to yum or smart.
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Old 3rd March 2009, 01:57 AM
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How do I add koji as a repo to yum or smart.
you have to wget it an install it

check this out, will give you some idea how http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showpo...14&postcount=7

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Old 3rd March 2009, 02:20 AM
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They don't have kernel-firmware.
Code:
# ls
kernel-2.6.29-0.50.rc6.git5.fc10.x86_64.rpm
kernel-devel-2.6.29-0.50.rc6.git5.fc10.x86_64.rpm
kernel-headers-2.6.29-0.50.rc6.git5.fc10.x86_64.rpm
# rpm -Uvh *.rpm
error: Failed dependencies:
        kernel-firmware >= 2.6.29-0.50.rc6.git5.fc10 is needed by kernel-2.6.29-0.50.rc6.git5.fc10.x86_64
        kernel-uname-r = 2.6.27.19-170.2.35.fc10.x86_64 is needed by (installed) kmod-nvidia-2.6.27.19-170.2.35.fc10.x86_64-177.82-1.fc10.4.x86_64
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Old 3rd March 2009, 02:47 AM
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something i do not know where the firmware is either, i cant find it even by googling . only Fedora11 packages
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Old 3rd March 2009, 04:49 AM
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OK, so if you have Fedora 11, use kernel 2.6.29. If you have Fedora 10 or below either downgrade the kernel or downgrade the nvidia driver.

I'm starting to think that downgrading the kernel would be better, as I'm seeing this apply not just to xorg, but snd, and wireless as well.

I'd file a bug report. I did create an account, but I can't figure out how to actually create a bug report. Actually, I'm more embarrassed, but confused works to.

The more participation we get, the better. By the way, I'm seeing these sort of reports for Ubuntu and other systems as well. It's not just Fedora.
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Old 3rd March 2009, 05:12 AM
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I just used the driver from the Nvidia site and it worked great.

1. Just install the kernel-devel package,

2. Download the driver

3. From a console (I use alt=f2) run init 3 as root this will stop all X.

4. cd to where you downloaded the driver and run sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.29-pkg1.run

5. Reboot and you are back in business

Enjoy
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Old 3rd March 2009, 05:18 AM
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I just used the driver from the Nvidia site and it worked great.

1. Just install the kernel-devel package,

2. Download the driver

3. From a console (I use alt=f2) run init 3 as root this will stop all X.

4. cd to where you downloaded the driver and run sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.29-pkg1.run

5. Reboot and you are back in business

Enjoy
Good to know. So the rpm version of 180 gets overwritten, and apparently the 180.29/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.29-pkg1.run does not.
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Old 3rd March 2009, 05:38 AM
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Cool fglrx peculiarites

Tried using
yum update
1st and it died- then ran the gui system update but noticed that fglrx was not part of the
update set. Ran
yum update
again and got the error messages included below.


yum update

seen as

Setting up Update Process
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package kmod-fglrx.i686 0:8.573-1.9.1.fc10.1 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: kmod-fglrx-2.6.27.15-170.2.24.fc10.i686 >= 8.573-1.9.1.fc10.1 for package: kmod-fglrx
--> Running transaction check
---> Package kmod-fglrx-2.6.27.15-170.2.24.fc10.i686.i686 0:8.573-1.9.1.fc10.1 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: kernel-uname-r = 2.6.27.15-170.2.24.fc10.i686 for package: kmod-fglrx-2.6.27.15-170.2.24.fc10.i686
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
kmod-fglrx-2.6.27.15-170.2.24.fc10.i686-8.573-1.9.1.fc10.1.i686 from rpmfusion-nonfree-updates has depsolving problems
--> Missing Dependency: kernel-uname-r = 2.6.27.15-170.2.24.fc10.i686 is needed by package kmod-fglrx-2.6.27.15-170.2.24.fc10.i686-8.573-1.9.1.fc10.1.i686 (rpmfusion-nonfree-updates)
Error: Missing Dependency: kernel-uname-r = 2.6.27.15-170.2.24.fc10.i686 is needed by package kmod-fglrx-2.6.27.15-170.2.24.fc10.i686-8.573-1.9.1.fc10.1.i686 (rpmfusion-nonfree-updates)


This is on Fedora 10.
Oddly enough, this is the 1st case where Fedora failed to run an update via
yum update
(used directly) where the gui interface worked and the less elegant 'terminal' version failed.
Actually it only sort of worked- it updated everything BUT the fglrx package and the yum
error output printed above is what happens if I now run
yum update



Sigh. Many thanks to leigh and any others who may be involved
for the work done in making the drivers work as well as they
do. About the only addition I can make to his very well written instructions on how to install
the mods needed for the graphics boards are the following-

If you are going to try to make a major update (e.g.- Fedora 9 to Fedora 10) install don't EVEN try
to use the 'upgrade' path. It utterly hung my system and trashed the print servers for
good measure (this latter problem seems to be endemic with any upgrade that fails- I've
experienced it as early as the Fedora 3 to Fedora 4 upgrade on an earlier machine where a graphics board wasn't even part of the problem). It left Fedora 9 more or less
intact but utterly buggered
the print servers (couldn't print anything or even get the system to recognize my USB printer
again). Unhappily, I've seen this before in failed version upgrades. Methinks I've learned my
lesson this time and will only do full installs.
Be most wise and copy your
user files to a USB or other disk and do a complete system install. If you are conversant with
disk partitions it is a REALLY good idea to put /home on a separate partition as suggested
in the Fedora install docs (being paranoid I did this several upgrades ago but still do the
backup) as it makes this part of the process a lot quicker and you can avoid the backup
and restore hassle.
Be aware that you are going
to have to disable your graphics board and do the install running on your motherboard's
internal graphics. Do this BEFORE the install (either disable the board in bios, pull the
extra power supply to the board (what I did) or actually pull the board). If you don't the system
will totally lock up about the time anaconda tries to run xterm in full resolution. In my case this also involved digging
in the closet and finding the VGA cable that was replaced by a DVI cable when I installed the
ATI graphics board and tweaked Fedora 9 to run the fglrx mods.

Once you have installed the Fedora major version upgrade follow the fglrx installation
instructions, shut down your machine, do whatever you have to do to reconnect and/or
repower your graphics board and reboot.

Oh what fun...almost makes me wish I was still using punch cards and papertape. not...LOL
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Old 3rd March 2009, 05:49 AM
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OK, so if you have Fedora 11, use kernel 2.6.29. If you have Fedora 10 or below either downgrade the kernel or downgrade the nvidia driver.

I'm starting to think that downgrading the kernel would be better, as I'm seeing this apply not just to xorg, but snd, and wireless as well.

I'd file a bug report. I did create an account, but I can't figure out how to actually create a bug report. Actually, I'm more embarrassed, but confused works to.

The more participation we get, the better. By the way, I'm seeing these sort of reports for Ubuntu and other systems as well. It's not just Fedora.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_file_a_bug_report

you'll be better off usin the 180.35 nvidia driver im sure its in RPMFusion rawhide repo's
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Old 3rd March 2009, 07:25 AM
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https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_file_a_bug_report

you'll be better off usin the 180.35 nvidia driver im sure its in RPMFusion rawhide repo's
Which one? pkg0, pkg1, or pkg2? I tried pkg2 and it did not work. Screen flickered.
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