Updating from Fedora 10 to Fedora 11

[cola]

I am using Fedora 10.
Can anyone tell me how can I update from Fedora 10 to Fedora 11?

[Jake]

Ok, well you could download the Fedora 11 Alpha ISO, and run the upgrade script when booting the DVD.

http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease

Or run Preupgrade.

Or Enable Rawhide Repo, and disable the other repo's such as fedora 10 updates so it's only Rawhide.

-

Be Advised Running a Rawhide install is not advised for general use, and is not considered stable, and due to these reasons, It's updated daily, and could break at any moment.

[SlowJet]

Originally Posted by cola

I am using Fedora 10.
Can anyone tell me how can I update from Fedora 10 to Fedora 11?

Why not make some room on you disk and install a seperate F11 alpha?
F11 is actually very stable (as of todays updates) and the 29 kernel from koji.

But do it now as the whole ranch is about to be re-compiled into 4.4.4.4.4.4.4.4.4.4.4 and will take over 5 days.

Just do it.
Get er done, son.
Jump on it.
Bet the farm and roll the dice.

It's just a computer system,
If you want to be scared, watch the view on TV.

SJ

[abiko]

Originally Posted by SlowJet

It's just a computer system,
If you want to be scared, watch the view on TV.

SJ

I agree
This alpha I'm running is stable, only minor bugs (crashes) of KDE apps (nothing major), till it gets to beta stage it will be very stable

[jsandys]

Originally Posted by SlowJet

Why not make some room on you disk and install a separate F11 alpha?

Is there a guide on how to do this?

I would like to test Fedora 11 alpha while keeping Fedora 10 CCRMA RT and my music on my laptop with LVM. Or is LiveCD the only way my laptop can do testing?

-- Jeff

[Jake]

Originally Posted by jsandys

Is there a guide on how to do this?

I would like to test Fedora 11 alpha while keeping Fedora 10 CCRMA RT and my music on my laptop with LVM.

-- Jeff

Partly why I dislike LVM on machines that don't actually need it is, basically you should have these partitions by default:

swap
/boot
/

Were as if you have lvm you have those but it's like this:

swap
/boot
LVM

problem with that is, a lot of things cannot alter LVM size, meaning re-sizing a partition, which is what you need.

If you can find a program that will allow you to alter partition sizes in an LVM (Good luck!). Then do so.

When installing Fedora 11, make sure the set the partitions up manually not using LVM.

As for how to dual boot, take a look through how-to and guide sections there is probably about 40 threads on it, or at least 1.

If you can actually pull the partitions you currently have *out* of LVM. that would be helpful. problem is, it could break your entire installation, but same goes with resizing partitions.

I normally recommend in a situation like this, to get a secondary drive. and install the Beta on that.

[hephasteus]

Wasn't Fedora 10 really stable all the way up till preview and then it hit 3 months of breakage?
Calm before the storm.
Are you all sweating now?

[scottro]

If you do an upgrade (or separate install) though it's mentioned in the release notes somewhere, the first thing to do, after installation (whether of distro or enabling yum repos)

yum update rpm

Otherwise, everything will break.

[Finalzone]

Originally Posted by Jake

problem with that is, a lot of things cannot alter LVM size, meaning re-sizing a partition, which is what you need.

If you can find a program that will allow you to alter partition sizes in an LVM (Good luck!). Then do so.

How about using system-config-lvm?

[SlowJet]

Originally Posted by jsandys

Is there a guide on how to do this?

I would like to test Fedora 11 alpha while keeping Fedora 10 CCRMA RT and my music on my laptop with LVM. Or is LiveCD the only way my laptop can do testing?

-- Jeff

Yes, but there is no How to be a dual booter after the fact guide.

The defaule install uses sda1 for /boot ext 3
sd2 is extended
sd3 is 8e LVM with 2 LV's for / and swap.

To get space on the end of the 8e partition requires several steps to shrink each layer (high to low)

resize f/s on /
lvresize /
swapoff lv swap
lvremove lv swap
pvresize sda3 8e
gparted or fdisk - resize sda3
lvcreate lv swap
mk.swap on lv
mount with swapon

Now you have free disk free space.
When you run the f11 install use it to make the default partitions or mk your own with diskdruid
fdisk sda4 /boot ext3 for f11
fdisk sda5 83 lvm
pvcreate /dev/sda5
vg create --name VolGroupF11 /dev/sda5
lvcreate --size nnnnM--name LogVolF11slash VolGroupF11 /dev/sda5

mkfs.ext3 /dev/VolGroupF11/LogVolF11slash

lvcreate --size 2G --name LogVolF11swap VolGroupF11 /dev/sda5
mkswap /dev/VolGroupF11/LogVolF11swap


As you can see a little long range planning can save a lot of work.
Life changing events are usually handled by a NEW plan.

SJ

[SlowJet]

Originally Posted by Finalzone

How about using system-config-lvm?

The gui does not change underlying partitions.
In some cases a fsck is required or the f/s / partition must be unmounted.

SJ

[SlowJet]

Originally Posted by Jake

Partly why I dislike LVM on machines that don't actually need it is, basically you should have these partitions by default:

swap
/boot
/

Were as if you have lvm you have those but it's like this:

swap
/boot
LVM

problem with that is, a lot of things cannot alter LVM size, meaning re-sizing a partition, which is what you need.

If you can find a program that will allow you to alter partition sizes in an LVM (Good luck!). Then do so.

When installing Fedora 11, make sure the set the partitions up manually not using LVM.

As for how to dual boot, take a look through how-to and guide sections there is probably about 40 threads on it, or at least 1.

If you can actually pull the partitions you currently have *out* of LVM. that would be helpful. problem is, it could break your entire installation, but same goes with resizing partitions.

I normally recommend in a situation like this, to get a secondary drive. and install the Beta on that.

Not true

SJ

[Jake]

Originally Posted by SlowJet

Not true

SJ

I've never really played with LVM, as no need to.

Also, the partitions which I suggested always work fine for me. (without LVM). Though some people re-install every 6 months, so they have a /home, however I do not.

And modifying any type of partitioning, can easily loose data, or break an installation.

PS: Why 3 posts?

[jsandys]

Originally Posted by SlowJet

Yes, but there is no How to be a dual booter after the fact guide.

The default install uses
sda1 for /boot ext 3
sda2 is extended
sda3 is 8e LVM with 2 LV's for / and swap.
...
Now you have free disk free space.
When you run the f11 install use it to make the default partitions or mk your own with diskdruid
fdisk sda4 /boot ext3 for f11
fdisk sda5 83 lvm
...
As you can see a little long range planning can save a lot of work.
Life changing events are usually handled by a NEW plan.

Why two /boot partitions? The reason I ask is I also have Windows XP installed and used fdisk to delete the recovery partition just to open up a partition. Can't you just use the existing /boot partition when you install rawhide and tell it not to install grub, and do a manual edit of grub.conf?

My disk configuration:
/dev/sda1 ntfs 60G windowsXP
/dev/sda3 ext2 .25G /boot
/dev/sda4 extended 200G F10
/dev/sda5 lvm 200G
33G of unallocated space
/dev/sda2 FAT 12G recovery partition (deleted by fdisk)

Re: long range planning. When I installed F10 I reduced the size of the LVs to leave room for rawhide, but couldn't figure how to tell disk druid to reduce the size of the extended partition to leave some room for a future partition.

Thanks, Jeff