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26th November 2008, 09:22 PM
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I've never used the wireless as I am hooked up the a router.
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27th November 2008, 04:04 AM
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Wirelessly or not, chances are that all of us are using Network Manager, so that might be something to check out, perhaps someone not using wireless (and with the problem) could disable Network Manager and use the "network" daemon, and see how it goes. I guess people using a router with DHCP (most) shouldn't have a problem because of that.
Thanks.
Joe.
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27th November 2008, 12:12 PM
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My Fedora 10 Randomly Crashes too
lspci
Code:
00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 Host Bridge (rev 10)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge
00:05.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge
00:06.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge
00:12.0 SATA controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 Non-Raid-5 SATA
00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI0)
00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI1)
00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI2)
00:13.3 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI3)
00:13.4 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI4)
00:13.5 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB Controller (EHCI)
00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 SMBus Controller (rev 13)
00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 IDE
00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia
00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 PCI to LPC Bridge
00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS485 [Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP]
05:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
08:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02)
08:01.0 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 19)
08:01.1 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C843 MMC Host Controller (rev 01)
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27th November 2008, 08:44 PM
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Hi all,
I can confirm F10 freezes after few minutes on a machine with ATI Radeon 1100 (aka X200) card. It worked fine on F8 (Livna fglrx) and F9 (default "ati" driver for X.org - we all know why). The freeze is total and only cold restart helps - no task switching, no keyboard, no way to get out of X.
This is a clean install of F10 final, no upgrade or beta -- therefore, I don't have the fglrx at all (RPMFusion removed it from its repo few days before F10 was released). The driver used for F10 is again the "ati" one. It is slow on scrolling but would still be bearable, if it was not freezing (even compiz works with, although it's ugly because of the slowness).
Any idea what should be "downgraded" this time? With F9, we had to downgrade the whole X for both ATI and NVidia; with F10, somebody mentioned downgrading drm to be able to use fglrx - but since I cannot get fglrx from the repo, why downgrading at all? I do understand that Fedora is a bleeding-edge distro, but hasn't there been too much bleeding in the past 2 releases? Having an X Window that works without freezing/crashing is something I'm used to since the times of S3 videocards and Xfree86 3.3...
WWell,
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27th November 2008, 09:50 PM
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oh men..
i have the same problem with fedora 10...
1 ~ 10 minutes.. its make a crash
i must do a hard restart...
fresh install and ati x200 xpress..
plx some solution! im with windows now :S:S!
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27th November 2008, 10:34 PM
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Another ATI x200 with random(?) lockups.
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27th November 2008, 10:50 PM
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I also appear to be getting the same problem with a Radeon 9200. Any clues to what's causing this would be greatly appreciated.
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27th November 2008, 10:55 PM
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I have a Acer [AMD 3500+ ATI Xpress 1100] and me too have same problems.
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27th November 2008, 11:04 PM
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im thinking the problem is with ATI Cards...
what happening?
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27th November 2008, 11:11 PM
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This should be brought up to the community's' developer board. I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 now and it works flawlessly on my machine. Desktop Effects, Compiz and all. It's not the greatest when it comes to building and compiling applications, but it works. I may give the new Mandriva 2009 a try as well. I couldn't wait for the release of Fedora 10 and it doesn't even work right.
Oh well. Maybe if we can figure something out, I can make the switch back, but as of now, that looks imminent.
Good luck to all! I'll be checking back periodically,
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28th November 2008, 12:04 AM
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i was seeing...
and i dont have the file xorg.conf in etc/X11..
i think this is the problem for all people or not?
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28th November 2008, 03:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by j0n!-Sn!p3r
i was seeing...
and i dont have the file xorg.conf in etc/X11..
i think this is the problem for all people or not?
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AFAIK X does not need that file anymore, not for default. It could be helpful though if someone generated it and checked for hangs. I don't really know how to do it, but a little bit of research here should show the way.
Right now I am posting from Linux Mint 5, and since I am busy, I guess I'll remain here for a while, if not I would try to generate the file myself.
To be fair, and in response to someone posting from Ubuntu 8.10, I have not found this Linux Mint absolutely flawless (in terms of the problem we are dealing with here). In fact it has hanged at least three times (very rare though) and I've noticed that occurred mostly with many Firefox tabs open. Same thing: just hangs, hard reboot required. For the record it is using:
Code:
joe@izcoatl ~ $ uname -a
Linux izcoatl 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 12:47:45 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
joe@izcoatl ~ $ fglrxinfo
display: :0.0 screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon Xpress Series
OpenGL version string: 2.1.7659 Release
Segmentation fault
joe@izcoatl ~ $
The difference I guess is that everything just works...and I am darn comfortable. I miss Fedora though and would like to install it when I get time/this thing gets solved.
Thanks.
Joe.
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28th November 2008, 03:17 AM
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i have the solutionnnnnn!!!! working for me!
edit the # grub.conf from /etc/grub
where say:
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686 ro root=UUID=01f52f6b-72c5-4a53-b482-c9edb14c90d6 rhgb quiet
add: nomodeset
edited:
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686 ro root=UUID=01f52f6b-72c5-4a53-b482-c9edb14c90d6 rhgb quiet nomodeset
reboot and the problem is solved for only now... 'cause the develpment is working in the kernel for ati cards..
Last edited by j0n!-Sn!p3r; 30th November 2008 at 01:45 PM.
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28th November 2008, 03:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Driv3r912
Hi everyone,
I've been with the Fedora OS for a while now and downloaded the new Fedora 10 DVD yesterday. I checked the SHA1 (Checksum) and they came back matching. I did a media check before installing Fedora.
I successfully install Fedora 10 on my system. After running it for about 6 or so minutes, it completely crashes. They keyboard and everything lockup. I have to do a hard reboot to recover. It will do the same thing over and over again.
I've performed now the 6th Clean Install. I still have the issue.
I'm running:
Gateway ML3109
1GB RAM
ATI Radeon Xpress 200M
Phoenix BIOS Revision ____ (not sure off hand)
85GB of HDD Space
What's weird is, I notice before it crashes that YUM is looking for a package titled along the lines of /lib/firmware/... intel ____code ??
Also, when I had Fedora 9, I had every update installed and never had any issues.
Moreover, when I enable desktop effects on Fedora 10, scrolling and resizing windows is terrible. It's not smooth, but moves over several pixels at a time.
Any ideas would greatly be appreciated. I'm more concerned over the crashing in the meantime. If you have ideas about the Desktop Effects, please post as well. Thanks!
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Something to try...
Set it to boot into Runlevel 3, login as root and try a "yum update" from there.
-Al
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29th November 2008, 06:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by j0n!-Sn!p3r
i have the solutionnnnnn!!!! working for me!
edit the # grub.conf from /etc/grub
where say:
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686 ro root=UUID=01f52f6b-72c5-4a53-b482-c9edb14c90d6 rhgb quiet
add: nomodeset
edited:
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686 ro root=UUID=01f52f6b-72c5-4a53-b482-c9edb14c90d6 rhgb quiet nomodeset nomodeset
reboot and the problem is solved for only now... 'cause the develpment is working in the kernel for ati cards..
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Works for me as well!
Thanks a lot!!!
Allan
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