F16,F15 & F14 Nvidia driver guides - Page 27

ap90033 · #**391** 20th July 2009, 12:39 PM

Could it be that part about the nouveau or something like that? I followed the guide and it installed just waiting for help with my screen being bigger than my 1080P TV.. Guys any ideas here?

spacefrog · #**392** 21st July 2009, 08:05 AM

Hi,

Could someone recall what was the original xorg.conf "Files" section before preparing for compiz?
My X11 server has some troubles: when switching "displays/terminals" with Ctr + Alt + F[1-6] I cannot get back the graphical interface (X mode 5 I guess).

many thanks,
Dan

ap90033 · #**393** 21st July 2009, 12:50 PM

Guys? Anything???

spacefrog · #**394** 21st July 2009, 04:22 PM

It seems like there is a problem with the "text plugin" in the provided compiz build.
Here is what I get from compiz-manager:

Code:

$ compiz-manager
Checking for Xgl: not present. 
xset q doesn't reveal the location of the log file. Using fallback /var/log/Xorg.0.log 
Detected PCI ID for VGA: 01:00.0 0300: 10de:0200 (rev a3) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Checking for texture_from_pixmap: present. 
Checking for non power of two support: present. 
Checking for Composite extension: present. 
Comparing resolution (1280x1024) to maximum 3D texture size (4096): Passed.
Checking for nVidia: present. 
Checking for FBConfig: present. 
Checking for Xgl: not present. 
Starting gtk-window-decorator
/usr/bin/compiz (core) - Error: Plugin 'text' not loaded.

/usr/bin/compiz (thumbnail) - Warn: No compatible text plugin found

ap90033 · #**395** 21st July 2009, 04:33 PM

Hmm seems like plenty of problems not many solutions...

ultra magnus · #**396** 21st July 2009, 05:37 PM

umm, hi. Where did the nvidia drivers go? i mean I can't find them, at all!

Code:

cybertron magnus # uname -a
Linux cybertron 2.6.29.5-191.fc11.i586 #1 SMP Tue Jun 16 23:11:39 EDT 2009 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux

Code:

cybertron magnus # yum search nvidia
Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit
===================================================================================== Matched: nvidia ======================================================================================
xorg-x11-drv-nouveau.i586 : Xorg X11 nouveau video driver for NVIDIA graphics chipsets
libXNVCtrl.i586 : Library providing the NV-CONTROL API
libXNVCtrl-devel.i586 : Development files for libXNVCtrl
nvclock.i586 : Utility that allows users to overclock NVIDIA based video cards

Code:

cybertron magnus # yum repolist enabled
Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit
repo id                                                                      repo name                                                                                       status
adobe-linux-i386                                                             Adobe Systems Incorporated                                                                      enabled:     17
fedora                                                                       Fedora 11 - i386                                                                                enabled: 13,289
rpmfusion-free                                                               RPM Fusion for Fedora 11 - Free                                                                 enabled:    377
rpmfusion-free-updates                                                       RPM Fusion for Fedora 11 - Free - Updates                                                       enabled:    120
updates                                                                      Fedora 11 - i386 - Updates                                                                      enabled:  3,239
repolist: 17,042

/me runs around in circles screaming

Probably something temporary..

Nokia · #**397** 21st July 2009, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultra magnus

umm, hi. Where did the nvidia drivers go? i mean I can't find them, at all!

Code:

cybertron magnus # uname -a
Linux cybertron 2.6.29.5-191.fc11.i586 #1 SMP Tue Jun 16 23:11:39 EDT 2009 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux

Code:

cybertron magnus # yum search nvidia
Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit
===================================================================================== Matched: nvidia ======================================================================================
xorg-x11-drv-nouveau.i586 : Xorg X11 nouveau video driver for NVIDIA graphics chipsets
libXNVCtrl.i586 : Library providing the NV-CONTROL API
libXNVCtrl-devel.i586 : Development files for libXNVCtrl
nvclock.i586 : Utility that allows users to overclock NVIDIA based video cards

Code:

cybertron magnus # yum repolist enabled
Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit
repo id                                                                      repo name                                                                                       status
adobe-linux-i386                                                             Adobe Systems Incorporated                                                                      enabled:     17
fedora                                                                       Fedora 11 - i386                                                                                enabled: 13,289
rpmfusion-free                                                               RPM Fusion for Fedora 11 - Free                                                                 enabled:    377
rpmfusion-free-updates                                                       RPM Fusion for Fedora 11 - Free - Updates                                                       enabled:    120
updates                                                                      Fedora 11 - i386 - Updates                                                                      enabled:  3,239
repolist: 17,042

/me runs around in circles screaming

Probably something temporary..

Nvidia lies in non-free section. Try

Code:

yum search nvidia --enablerepo=rpm*g

ultra magnus · #**398** 21st July 2009, 06:45 PM

I now see my error, thank you for pointing it out! I said it was temporary...

spacefrog · #**399** 21st July 2009, 06:49 PM

I tried to discover what was compiz capable. Unfortunately I used several compiz configuration interfaces (GL Gnome, Compiz Configuration, Desktop effects). As always, sometime you reach a point where the interface is flawed and it corrupts the data in the files. That's really bad because everything is based on files in the ancestor of Linux... One should rely on the interfaces to configure the files and not fiddle with both interfaces AND files, otherwise there is a risk of data corruption...

In my opinion, to handle compiz in F11 there are several options :
1/ Low system compromizing risk : stick to the basic effects activated by the "Desktop Effects" interface

2/ Medium system compromizing risk: use the compiz-fusion icon tool along with the compiz configuration panel. Personaly, I would first disable the effects in the "Desktop Effects" interface first.

3/ High system compromizing risk: fiddle with all compiz targated interfaces like GL Gnome, Livna, Compiz configuration, Desktop Effects and end up like me with no more gtk-window container (cannot move the windows anymore), no possiblity to switch back to X with Ctrl + Alt + F[1-6]...

4/ Ultra high system compromizing risk: fiddle with all the interfaces plus the config files. This is the fastest way to need a new install...

Good luck,
Dan

spacefrog · #**400** 21st July 2009, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nokia

Nvidia lies in non-free section. Try

Code:

yum search nvidia --enablerepo=rpm*g

Nokia, you still try to contaminate people with testing repos?
I think you know that there will be dependency issues later on between stable and testing...

Nokia · #**401** 21st July 2009, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacefrog

I tried to discover what was compiz capable. Unfortunately I used several compiz configuration interfaces (GL Gnome, Compiz Configuration, Desktop effects). As always, sometime you reach a point where the interface is flawed and it corrupts the data in the files. That's really bad because everything is based on files in the ancestor of Linux... One should rely on the interfaces to configure the files and not fiddle with both interfaces AND files, otherwise there is a risk of data corruption...

In my opinion, to handle compiz in F11 there are several options :
1/ Low system compromizing risk : stick to the basic effects activated by the "Desktop Effects" interface

2/ Medium system compromizing risk: use the compiz-fusion icon tool along with the compiz configuration panel. Personaly, I would first disable the effects in the "Desktop Effects" interface first.

3/ High system compromizing risk: fiddle with all compiz targated interfaces like GL Gnome, Livna, Compiz configuration, Desktop Effects and end up like me with no more gtk-window container (cannot move the windows anymore), no possiblity to switch back to X with Ctrl + Alt + F[1-6]...

4/ Ultra high system compromizing risk: fiddle with all the interfaces plus the config files. This is the fastest way to need a new install...

Good luck,
Dan

Well, you're a bit exageratting. A new install isn't necessary just because you know a few basic things about your OS. As far as compiz is concerned, you only need

Code:

 su
rm -fvr /home/*/.config/compiz && rm -vfr /home/*/.cache/compizconfig

### Log out/Log In

Nokia · #**402** 21st July 2009, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacefrog

Nokia, you still try to contaminate people with testing repos?
I think you know that there will be dependency issues later on between stable and testing...

In theory there's a greater chance to get one of your programs temporarily broken. In practice the more up-to-date you are - fewer problems are left unsolved. You do the math.

And FWIW, I wouldn't recommend something untested.

Need something rock solid ? Go for Debian 5 and see how it handles your latest hardware. Also, enjoy the latest in software development - set your clock a few years back that is.

As time goes by, many come to these forums looking for help. Very often, their answer lies in the testing repos, but I'm sure you'll carefully advise them to wait a few weeks until their update is deemed stable by a superior entity.

spacefrog · #**403** 21st July 2009, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nokia

In theory there's a greater chance to get one of your programs temporarily broken. In practice the more up-to-date you are - fewer problems are left unsolved. You do the math.

And FWIW, I wouldn't recommend something untested.

Need something rock solid ? Go for Debian 5 and see how it handles your latest hardware. Also, enjoy the latest in software development - set your clock a few years back that is.

As time goes by, many come to these forums looking for help. Very often, their answer lies in the testing repos, but I'm sure you'll carefully advise them to wait a few weeks until their update is deemed stable by a superior entity.

We are both right and wrong

You seem pretty skilled in linux. I have a 1000 points question for you:
Now that gdm-restart is not supported anymore, how do you control the X server? Every time you do a test involving X you restart the machine? There must be a way of shuting down X server and fixing some configuration and then restarting X, isn't it? May be the answer is simple I just don't know.

Nokia · #**404** 21st July 2009, 08:25 PM

Solution 1---- See http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showpo...65&postcount=4

Solution 2-----SSH in from another machine, init 3 - init 5

spacefrog · #**405** 21st July 2009, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nokia

Solution 1---- See http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showpo...65&postcount=4

Solution 2-----SSH in from another machine, init 3 - init 5

The DonZap option does not work on my platform, already tested. Moreover it is a kill signal, not a shutdown.

SSH in from another machine is too complicated for just a simple X restart and you also need a second machine.

If there is no other option I will practice "kill pid", old ways still work