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17th November 2008, 06:38 PM
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Hi all!
Hello everyone!
Since a couple of weeks I am studying Linux, for the LPI1 exam, I have chosen Fedora as my distribution.
At the moment I am still a total n00b, so I am real happy I found this great Fedora forum.
Greetings,
MrGarrison
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17th November 2008, 06:42 PM
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Welcome aboard, MrGarrison.
Glad you've come. My first suggestion is to have a look around at the way we do things. There's a link in my signature area. Go ahead and hit it and bring yourself up to speed on those links it takes you to.
Dan
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17th November 2008, 06:49 PM
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Thanks for the link, Dan, I am reading it right now.
It's mostly about Fedora 6, which is great, the study I'm following uses Fedora 6.
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18th November 2008, 12:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrGarrison
Thanks for the link, Dan, I am reading it right now.
It's mostly about Fedora 6, which is great, the study I'm following uses Fedora 6.
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Studying for the LPI huh. That's great. Wish you every success.
The study materials and exams covering F6 sounds about right too. Takes time to put together course materials, exams and then have them printed up and distributed.
It's too bad though because there's just such a great deal that's changed since F6 came out. Which, of course, makes me wonder really whether or not these certifications are really worth their salt rather than just being entrance tickets to a job interview. But... that's a discussion for a different thread.
Good luck on your studies and hope to see you stick around. Would love to hear later about how things worked out, what you thought of the cert and if it's helped you at all.
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18th November 2008, 12:25 AM
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Good point, pwca. Learn FC6 for your certification, but don't forget to keep learning and catch up to the versions available now. That's one of my peeves are outdated materials for certifications and the people who don't keep up. But at least you're using Fedora. My school uses OpenSUSE.
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18th November 2008, 04:22 AM
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Well, good that you are using Fedora as your distribution, but I would recomend you not to use F6. Fedora 6 is no longer supported (even Fedora 7 has reached its EOL). Having a certificate sounds good, but in reality you need to be more up-to-date to be competitive.
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18th November 2008, 04:27 AM
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I don't think the cert will hurt. In a way it makes sense that they're using F6 as it's more like RHEL4-5. I'm surprised they don't use CentOS actually.
Job hunting, at least in the US, seems to have more RH openings than other distributions at this point.
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18th November 2008, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by GallComp
Well, good that you are using Fedora as your distribution, but I would recomend you not to use F6. Fedora 6 is no longer supported (even Fedora 7 has reached its EOL). Having a certificate sounds good, but in reality you need to be more up-to-date to be competitive.
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Maybe I misunderstood but to me it sounds like he doesn't have a choice in which version he studies, I think it's the materials presented for the exam. Not sure if I understood that right though.
I think certs can be overrated. For instance, I know people with A+ certs who can't set their watch. You might know them... they're in Geek Squad and Firedog. (That's not a crack at all GS and Firedog people, there are some good techies in those departments).
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18th November 2008, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by metatron
Maybe I misunderstood but to me it sounds like he doesn't have a choice in which version he studies, I think it's the materials presented for the exam. Not sure if I understood that right though.
I think certs can be overrated. For instance, I know people with A+ certs who can't set their watch. You might know them... they're in Geek Squad and Firedog. (That's not a crack at all GS and Firedog people, there are some good techies in those departments).
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Really? My experiences with GS have been very disappointing. From my experiences at the two local Best Buys if you ask about anything that goes with anything else 5+ years old they look at you like your from planet mongo with six eyeballs popping out of your ears. Don't believe me... then go up to one next time you're there and ask them for a PCMCIA NIC (don't confuse the poor things by specifying type 1 or type 2).
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24th November 2008, 06:50 PM
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tanks for you advise
Hi all!
Thanks for all comments, I believe your right, your comments inspired me to change some things.
Fedora core 6 is outdated, Fedora 10 is about to be released.
The study book covers Fedora core 6 and SUSE 10.2
Next to the studybook, I have a skilled teacher and study website with forum were I can ask questions.
This entire course costed over more then $6000,-
The teacher said that we can use any Linux distro, as long as we get to know the study material.
I dissident to use Fedora 9.
I will not use the book any longer, it is full of spelling errors, it is outdated, written in Dutch, and it covers 2 very different Linux distro´s in a chaotic very way.
A friend gave me a videocourse that is way better, LinuxCBT RHEL5.
Red hat is a lot like Fedora, so I can use Fedora until I have the money to buy a license for RHEL5.
I threw away my microcarp XP CD, and installed Fedora 9 as my primary OS, this way i have to do everything with Fedora, which forces me to get to know Fedora.
I have a lot of questions about Fedora 9 as a normal desktop user, and 1 much more impotent question about Fedora as a server system, hopefully someone help me with my n00b questions.
1.For my study, I need to add 2 users, from the commandline.
I am starting to understand what I need to do, but I am not sure if I am doing it right, I am a n00b.
One user is named ´Jan´ (typical Dutch name) and the other one is named ´Piet´
User ´Piet´ needs to change his login password every 30 days.
User ´Jan´ needs to change his login password every 20 days.
I need to create two groups, one is named ´directie´, the other one ´financieel´, I don´t need to add passwords for the groups.
User ´Piet´ needs to be a member of the group ´financieel´
User ´Jan´ needs to be a member of both groups, ´directie´ and ´financieel´
User ´Jan´ needs to be a standard member of the group ´directie´.
I need to add a home directory /home/financieel and /home/directie
The group ´financieel´ must have all rights on the directory ´financieel´
The group ´directie´ must have all rights on the directory ´directie´.
I hope someone can help me, I have been practicing for days, but I am not sure I am doing it right...
2.I have been using Fedora as a desktop system, I love it, but I still have some questions, Googeling didn´t help me much.
a. How can I play .MOV files within Fedora 9? (quicktime)
b. How can I enable s-video, so I can watch movies on my old (Sony CRT) TV?
c. How can I make the desktop look better, are there app´s that can make it even more of an eyecandy?
Greetings,
MrGarrison
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24th November 2008, 07:29 PM
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hi,
what i would do is first read the appropriate manpages and understand what it is you are about to do. you can read man(ual) pages by using the 'man {command}' statement where command is the man page you want.
the commands that seem relevant in this case are:
mkdir
groupadd
useradd
so:
Code:
$ man mkdir
$ man useradd
$ man groupadd
creating users needs to be done under the 'root' account so become root:
first you will want to add the two groups, this is easier when adding the users later
Code:
# groupadd directie
then you can add a user with the appropriate options from the manpage
Code:
# useradd -u {UID} -g directie -G financieel -d /home/jan -m -s /bin/bash -c "jan jansen - directie lid" jan # create user jan with primary group directie and secondary financieel and home-dir /home/jan
# passwd jan # set a password twice
# mkdir /home/directie # create folder
# chgrp directie /home/directie # set group owner of folder to group directie
# chmod 775 /home/directie # change permissions on folder /home/directie so owner and group hal full permissions and other people just read/execute but no write permissions
this is probably already giving away way too much, not all steps are covered here but you don't want to just copy-paste it and not learn anything, this should at least cover the jan bit but make sure you know what is going on, like the 775 folder permissions (rwxrwxr-x on ls -l output)
as for the desktop, plugins and tips .... maybe this guide helps you:
http://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfec...-fedora9-gnome
succes!
stefan
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24th November 2008, 07:53 PM
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Thanks stefan1975!
I think I missed something, so thanks for your help, it´s most useful.
I´ll it again try this evening, if it doesn´t work i´ll be back.
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24th November 2008, 09:54 PM
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for password aging, see the 'passwd' options -n and -x. There's also another source of documentation material that's accessed via the 'info' command. Often it has more complete information about a command (not the case of 'passwd', though). Sorry I haven't time to answer more question, but Stefan here is doing a good job and hopefully someone else will cover the rest. Post again if you get stuck, and good hunting
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24th November 2008, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by giulix
for password aging, see the 'passwd' options -n and -x. There's also another source of documentation material that's accessed via the 'info' command. Often it has more complete information about a command (not the case of 'passwd', though). Sorry I haven't time to answer more question, but Stefan here is doing a good job and hopefully someone else will cover the rest. Post again if you get stuck, and good hunting 
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ah crap! missed the password aging part of the assignment, guess i won't get an A+ after all......the rest i let out intentionally .... wouldn't want to spoil *all* his fun now, would I?
stefan
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25th November 2008, 08:20 AM
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I am studying Linux, for the LPI1 exam
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Just be careful, I don't think they'll allow you to take Mr. Hat with you in the exam room.
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