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Old 21st August 2008, 05:41 PM
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Exclamation iPod Touch Support - ANY Media Player

Hi all, don't suppose anyone knows of a way (any way at all) to get an ipod touch recognised and docked in FC9...

Any way at all, no matter what applications used, i need it working asap.

Cheers, Dave
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Old 21st August 2008, 05:52 PM
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it worked for me

http://www.ilovetux.com/2008/07/how-...ora-linux.html
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Old 21st August 2008, 06:35 PM
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just tried that method now, i get as far as montoring messages using tailf, i see the ipod get connected but fedora never issues it a device name (sdb2, sdb3 etc...) it simply stops with the serial number and nothing after that...

without the device name i cant mount the ipod to /mnt/ipod

what ipod do you have, are you sure this is supposed to work for ipod touch as i've been hearing that ipod touch and iphone interface a lot differently.
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Old 21st August 2008, 06:47 PM
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# service haldaemon start
# service messagebus start

and try again.

what does dmesg tells you after waiting for some time?

did you try the above using another USB port ?
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Old 21st August 2008, 07:16 PM
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services already started

dmesg prints:

Quote:
usb 1-2.4.1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 15
usb 1-2.4.1: configuration #1 chosen from 3 choices
usb 1-2.4.1: New USB device found, idVendor=05ac, idProduct=1291
usb 1-2.4.1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
usb 1-2.4.1: Product: iPod
usb 1-2.4.1: Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
usb 1-2.4.1: SerialNumber: b467c1d8dd434f36cc81794021b2b5592251d8f3
usb 1-2.4.1: USB disconnect, address 15
usb 1-2.4.1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 16
usb 1-2.4.1: configuration #1 chosen from 3 choices
usb 1-2.4.1: New USB device found, idVendor=05ac, idProduct=1291
usb 1-2.4.1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
usb 1-2.4.1: Product: iPod
usb 1-2.4.1: Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
usb 1-2.4.1: SerialNumber: b467c1d8dd434f36cc81794021b2b5592251d8f3
and nothing else after that serial number line...

tried on 2 other usb ports, one on the motherboard and one in a 13-port usb hub... all 3 ports known to be working

very strange

*EDIT* - after looking back through a lot of connects/disconnects of the ipod, one of them (after the serial number line) prints the following:
Quote:
usb 2-8: usbfs: USBDEVFS_CONTROL failed cmd gvfsd-gphoto2 rqt 128 rq 6 len 1000 ret -110

Last edited by dragon2309; 21st August 2008 at 07:19 PM.
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Old 21st August 2008, 08:00 PM
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issue the command

# tailf /var/log/messages

before plugging the device into the USB and wait for 10 seconds.

Go back to the issued tail command and try to paste the results here.

Now, while the device is connected, what does the below tells you?

# lsusb
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Old 21st August 2008, 08:03 PM
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oh, i forgot that upon connecting the Ipod to USB, the Ipod screen should show that a USB connection is detected before you can mount the device further. If the Ipod did not detect the USB connectivity, it will not work.
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Old 22nd August 2008, 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by mnisay
oh, i forgot that upon connecting the Ipod to USB, the Ipod screen should show that a USB connection is detected before you can mount the device further. If the Ipod did not detect the USB connectivity, it will not work.
this being an ipod touch it only shows the data sync screen when docked in itunes... simply dropping it into the dock only starts it charging.

Does that mean this isnt going to work?
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Old 22nd August 2008, 09:13 AM
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hi, can you do


issue the command

# tailf /var/log/messages

before plugging the device into the USB and wait for 10 seconds.

Go back to the issued tail command and try to paste the results here.

Now, while the device is connected, what does the below tells you?

# lsusb
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Old 23rd August 2008, 07:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mnisay
hi, can you do


issue the command

# tailf /var/log/messages

before plugging the device into the USB and wait for 10 seconds.

Go back to the issued tail command and try to paste the results here.

Now, while the device is connected, what does the below tells you?

# lsusb
hi mnisay, i get the following for the tailf command:

Code:
Aug 23 18:59:57 localhost kernel: usb 1-2.4.1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 13
Aug 23 19:00:02 localhost kernel: usb 1-2.4.1: configuration #1 chosen from 3 choices 
Aug 23 19:00:02 localhost kernel: usb 1-2.4.1: New USB device found, idVendor=05ac, idProduct=1291 
Aug 23 19:00:02 localhost kernel: usb 1-2.4.1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 
Aug 23 19:00:02 localhost kernel: usb 1-2.4.1: Product: iPod 
Aug 23 19:00:02 localhost kernel: usb 1-2.4.1: Manufacturer: Apple Inc. 
Aug 23 19:00:02 localhost kernel: usb 1-2.4.1: SerialNumber: b467c1d8dd434f36cc81794021b2b5592251d8f3
for the lsusb command i get the following:

Code:
Bus 001 Device 013: ID 05ac:1291 Apple, Inc. 
Bus 001 Device 012: ID 046d:c51a Logitech, Inc. MX Revolution/G7 Cordless Mouse
Bus 001 Device 011: ID 046d:c517 Logitech, Inc. LX710 Cordless Desktop Laser
Bus 001 Device 010: ID 0781:a7c1 SanDisk Corp. 
Bus 001 Device 009: ID 07ca:a815 AVerMedia Technologies, Inc. 
Bus 001 Device 008: ID 058f:6254 Alcor Micro Corp. 
Bus 001 Device 007: ID 058f:6254 Alcor Micro Corp. 
Bus 001 Device 006: ID 058f:6254 Alcor Micro Corp. 
Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0bc2:3000 Seagate RSS LLC 
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 058f:6254 Alcor Micro Corp. 
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 006: ID 1131:1001 Integrated System Solution Corp. KY-BT100 Bluetooth Adapter
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
thanks, dave
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Old 25th August 2008, 01:40 PM
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hi all, any more support on this, from looking at other forums and whatnot, it doesnt seem like many people have got this working at all.

I managed to SSH into it the other night but after a few minutes of cd'ing and ls'ing, i couldnt find any central place where all the music is stored. And from what i can gather it isnt as simple as that anyway, something about the track database and the artwork database being encrypted, so any extra tracks wouldnt be seen.

Sounds a bit of crapper to be honest. has anyone on these boards got this done yet? I can't be the only person who wants to use an ipod touch in a linux environment.

The only other way i cans ee around it is to have a windows box somewhere else in the house, share the music over a network, sync the ipod in itunes on the windows box after pullung the shared files. Bit of a bummer...
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Old 25th August 2008, 02:20 PM
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I have an mp3 player that when connected the system (F8) would recognize it correctly but a device block would not be created.
However, Amarok did see and have access it.
It is not an Apple product though, but it's worth a try.
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Old 25th August 2008, 02:52 PM
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have you installed gtkpod to work on files with your apple ipod?
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Old 25th August 2008, 07:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mnisay
have you installed gtkpod to work on files with your apple ipod?
yes, of course i have... but gtkpod needs a mount point of the ipod (typically /mnt/ipod) which doesnt exist as fedora refuses to give the ipod a device name (sdc1 or whatever)
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Old 25th August 2008, 07:32 PM
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the below line that you have pasted
usb 1-2.4.1: New USB device found, idVendor=05ac, idProduct=1291

proved that we have the same apple ipod version, that fedora had detected. the only thing that differs is the serial number though.

have you tried removing your other USB devices before connecting your ipod and try again? let us see the difference it would make this time.

try using a verbose lsusb command like

# lsusb -v


it would helpful if you could paste the results also including the results from issuing the below command

cat /proc/bus/usb/devices

just a though, you can give f-spot a try, where in it does not need the device to be mounted before it can be accessible from f-spot pictureds management software. though i have only tried f-spot with digicams, not with apple ipod yet.

# yum -y install f-spot

as shown here http://www.ilovetux.com/2007/07/f-sp...all-howto.html
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