XMMS starts automatically when KDE starts

Mat · #1 20th July 2004, 02:10 PM

Hi

I'm kinda puzzled.. I always care to close it before shutting down my system and I always logout properly.. yet, everytime I KDE gets started, xmms is there again... kinda annoying..

does anybody has an idea, how to prevent this?

Mat

sailor · #2 20th July 2004, 02:40 PM

you may have clicked "save current setup" when logging out....this saves the desktop to the same state upon the next reboot/restart...so any programs that were running will automatically start ....
This part of the Gnome desktop...I am not sure if KDE is the same, but it must have something similar...

Mat · #3 20th July 2004, 02:46 PM

kde has something too, but that's exactly my point... I always close the player before I shut the machine down...

sailor · #4 20th July 2004, 03:04 PM

I am thinking you need to close xmms anything else you don't wnat to run, then logout and use 'save current setup" upon reboot it should be in the state you left it in...

Ok I just did this as a test...my desktop starts with Gkrellm loaded...I closed Gkrellm...then went to log out...I checked "save current setup" and on login Gkrellm no longer starts automatically...then I reset it by opening Gkrellm and logout check "save current setup"...and it starts again on login....
(who said boot?)

crackers · #5 20th July 2004, 04:31 PM

Er, "reboot" - you mean log in again, right? If not (and you're actually rebooting), you might need a good talking to, amigo!

Reboot - humph!

sailor · #6 20th July 2004, 05:16 PM

ok ok ...loging out and loging in...you are a stickler aren't you

windows thinking is just hard to get out of my head

Mat · #7 21st July 2004, 01:36 AM

I'm just a poor student, I can't afford my system to run 24/7, so yes.. shutting down and power off..

I made the test with other apps (KNotes), I started it, and it's just there everytime when I start my PC anew.. When I closed it, it never came up again..

not so with xmms...

btw: that problem just occured recently, it has not always been that way..

crackers · #8 21st July 2004, 04:37 PM

Yes, I am a stickler - for the very reason you mention: the Windows paradigm is flawed and people need to be aware of just how flawed it is. Just because you've gotten used to it doesn't mean it's right.

As for Mat, you might want to check your Autostart folder. Perhaps you've got something in there that's causing XMMS to start. You might also want to go into the KDE Control Center. Look for "KDE Components/Session Manager." Select the checkbox/radio button that says "Start with an empty session." Both of those items should clear it up, methinks...

Mat · #9 22nd July 2004, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by crackers

As for Mat, you might want to check your Autostart folder. Perhaps you've got something in there that's causing XMMS to start. You might also want to go into the KDE Control Center. Look for "KDE Components/Session Manager." Select the checkbox/radio button that says "Start with an empty session." Both of those items should clear it up, methinks...

Autostart was empty.. and I don't like that 'start with an empty session' solution, cause I want programs I left open to reappear after login...

however, I had added xmms to the mime types .ogg .mp3 etc.. after I deleted them, xmms never showed up upon login...

don't know what happened here, but it seems that's the solution!?

Mat

sailor · #10 22nd July 2004, 05:35 AM

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Yes, I am a stickler - for the very reason you mention: the Windows paradigm is flawed and people need to be aware of just how flawed it is. Just because you've gotten used to it doesn't mean it's right.

sheesh....don't hit me!...

...I spend so much time on Windows puters at work and at home I still use those terms regularly....I am convinced that FC is far better OS than any I have used!
the hard part is convincing everyone else...

crackers · #11 22nd July 2004, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mat

however, I had added xmms to the mime types .ogg .mp3 etc.. after I deleted them, xmms never showed up upon login...

Heh! That's what happens when you mess around with mime types! I'm guessing that you may have some links to files/directories on your desktop that have multimedia files in them, so KDE did what you told it to - start XMMS with that file type.

Mat · #12 23rd July 2004, 12:03 PM

actually you're right, I have to playlists on my Desktop, but I never listened to them.. xmms always came up with the last playlist, I've played, not the desk's..

besides, is that supposed to be normal?!
I added xmms as a file handler, to be able to start it after clickin on a file, not that it runs all by itsself..

and, I have text files on my desktop too, they never opened..

Mat

crackers · #13 23rd July 2004, 04:22 PM

It's probably just a peculiarity of the mix of things: messing with MIME types, files on the desktop, etc.

Personally, I think using the Desktop as a filing system just plain wrong - too much like the way Windows practically encourages you use the Desktop as a dumping ground for stuff that you can't bother to file correclty - or at least that's the way it's appeared to me watching Windows users. Of course, my physical desktop is a filing system, so I'm quite obviously schizophrenic.

Mat · #14 25th July 2004, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by crackers

Personally, I think using the Desktop as a filing system just plain wrong - too much like the way Windows practically encourages you use the Desktop as a dumping ground for stuff that you can't bother to file correclty - or at least that's the way it's appeared to me watching Windows users. Of course, my physical desktop is a filing system, so I'm quite obviously schizophrenic.

quite right, that's how I use my (virtual) desktop too.. storing code snippets, or urls I want to download etc..

if that's no good thing, then, what exactly is the function of the desktop? (i.e. why am I allowed to copy things there)

Mat

crackers · #15 25th July 2004, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mat

if that's no good thing, then, what exactly is the function of the desktop? (i.e. why am I allowed to copy things there)

That was an opinion (I have only two icons on my desktop) - plus I did mention that I have a disparity between my computer and physical desktops. Another opinion, regarding your question: I think the desktop should be used for "most used applications and directories", but actual files should be properly stored within $HOME directories. Temporarily dragging stuff to the desktop and then off to a good $HOME directory is a good use. Storing "code snippets" on the desktop can be a bad idea - that's a very active environment and if you have some script, portion of a script available on the desktop, it may react with a program you run (or the desktop itself) in ways that you didn't want it to.

The main thing is that Linux ain't Windows - Windows encourages you to be sloppy and properly using Linux is like keeping your bedroom clean, just like your Mom always wanted...