Pulseaudio, alsa, oss

[kikker46]

Hi,

How to work with all of them.

Every reboot, update, install, it changes and I have to do trics to get it to work, I`m upset, that this is always the case and I`m tired of it, please help me to figure this out to let it work for many years .

Thx,

Kind regards,

Kikker46

[JohnVV]

for "Pulseaudio, alsa, oss" settings to change on reboot or a software update you have them set up wrong .

I have to do trics to get it to work

what " tricks " ????
What version of fedora 8, or 9 ??
a laptop or desktop ??
what is your sound card ,if there is one ??

[kikker46]

Yes, sorry, besides my anger, no information I know.
Fedora core= Fedora core 9
Souncard = it is the ALC883

This is a desktop/server.

Linux baby01 2.6.25.9-76.fc9.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Jun 27 15:58:30 EDT 2008 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

[kikker46]

So what do I mean, with problems ? Then oss works only, next day I start up, alsa and oss are working, today, nothing works anymore.

Pulse-audio gives me the problem that I can not use Skype, and if Skyp works, then I can not do anything else .

PulseAudio Manager gives me connection refused and I can`t get it away.

[scottro]

Until last November, sound in Fedora pretty much worked out of the box, regardless of whether in console, Gnome, or another window manager.
That is no longer the case. Around then, it was decided to tie sound in with ConsoleKit. This stopped sound from working for non root users for many people and a bug was filed.

The developer closed the bug, saying that it wasn't a bug, it was misconfiguration. Disabling ConsoleKit, which until then, had only been a necessary program for Gnome, no longer became a trivial option.

Then came pulse-audio which broke sound for many more users. Now, one often can only get sound out of the box if they use Gnome. If you use another window manager or use console, you have to research to get sound working. You might have to research to get it working with flash in a browser.

Nor does it seem consistent through different installations. So, yes, I feel the OP has a legitimate complaint.

Ubuntu and others also now use pulseaudio, and it has not caused the same problems, nor required the same amount of research and effort to get it to work.

So, regardless of the right and wrong of it, the fact remains that sound used to work out of the box, regardless of setup, and no longer does. I would call that a regression.

[JohnVV]

as for the tricks ??
what have you done
example
fallow these how to's
http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/rhsound.html
http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup
and thread
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showth...ht=pulse+audio
or "skype problem with audio playback"
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showth...ht=pulse+audio
did you search the forum

[kikker46]

I did search the forum, and yes I tried out many stuff already. I see you have new links thow. So I will try them out... but that eventually WILL NOT solve my problem.

Then it will work now, and tomorrow it will not work AGAIN. I know that when you relogin/reboot, he again re detect things and it will be all gone AGAIN.

So I then get it to work, so some other stuff, like listening to music, xmms or watching video vlc. Next evening it will all be gone...... I don`t want to spend hours and hours every day to get it to work....

[JohnVV]

for more help i DO need to know what exactly you have done ,otherwise i am spinning my wheels .
also to requote

for "Pulseaudio, alsa, oss" settings to change on reboot or a software update you have them set up wrong .

it is true that every now and then for some unknown reason Pulseaudio may not start at system start up ( 1% to 3% of the time ) but the settings WILL NOT CHANGE.

[MarcoP]

After I've removed pulseaduio because of my issues thinks started working again till yestarday's update.
So I've started digging around, again, and I've end up to reinstall pulseaudio since no settings could get my audio back any more.

For the first time I've manually started pulseaudio and got just few errors and a bunch of positive messages

$ pulseaduio -vvv

I've had to:
1) add my self in pulse-rt group (I was in wheel already) and
2) let the session auto load pulseaudio using esound-compat
to make things work again but skype loose audio.

However I'm not able to get the pulseaudio server mixer to show up again, it was in "Applications | Sound & Video | Pulse" I'm missing something for sure

$ rpm -qa | grep pulseaudio
pulseaudio-libs-glib2-0.9.10-1.fc9.i386
alsa-plugins-pulseaudio-1.0.16-4.fc9.i386
pulseaudio-utils-0.9.10-1.fc9.i386
pulseaudio-0.9.10-1.fc9.i386
pulseaudio-module-gconf-0.9.10-1.fc9.i386
xine-lib-pulseaudio-1.1.12-2.fc9.i386
pulseaudio-core-libs-0.9.10-1.fc9.i386
pulseaudio-libs-0.9.10-1.fc9.i386
pulseaudio-module-x11-0.9.10-1.fc9.i386
pulseaudio-esound-compat-0.9.10-1.fc9.i386

[MarcoP]

kikker46 check your session error file and see if you get "RtApiAlsa: underrun detected." this is what I get after I try a skype call, after that skype audio wont work again

[kikker46]

My big problem now is that pulseaudio is not started up... when I log in and then do pulseaudio -vvv then it works. but when I quit that, it won`t work anymore.

How to make it autostartup ?

[kikker46]

I set the asound.conf, I will check tomorrow if that solved it.

[MarcoP]

To automatically start pulseaudio you need to have pulseaudio-esound-compat installed, then System -> Preferences -> Personal -> Sessions and enable PulseAudio.

Anyway going back to your original problem ... I'm still not sure with the last update but I had the same problem after every big update. However FC9 is still pretty young and there are lot and constantly updates and I'm sure everything will be sorted out.

[kikker46]

pcm.!default {
type pulse
}
ctl.!default {
type pulse
}

as my asound.conf like pulseaudio suggested

for the record I checked Multicast/RTP and send it to the network so it didn`t came out anymore on my speakers.

[JN4OldSchool]

Originally Posted by scottro

Until last November, sound in Fedora pretty much worked out of the box, regardless of whether in console, Gnome, or another window manager.
That is no longer the case. Around then, it was decided to tie sound in with ConsoleKit. This stopped sound from working for non root users for many people and a bug was filed.

The developer closed the bug, saying that it wasn't a bug, it was misconfiguration. Disabling ConsoleKit, which until then, had only been a necessary program for Gnome, no longer became a trivial option.

Then came pulse-audio which broke sound for many more users. Now, one often can only get sound out of the box if they use Gnome. If you use another window manager or use console, you have to research to get sound working. You might have to research to get it working with flash in a browser.

Nor does it seem consistent through different installations. So, yes, I feel the OP has a legitimate complaint.

Ubuntu and others also now use pulseaudio, and it has not caused the same problems, nor required the same amount of research and effort to get it to work.

So, regardless of the right and wrong of it, the fact remains that sound used to work out of the box, regardless of setup, and no longer does. I would call that a regression.

Probably doesnt belong here, but just want to say this is a great observation. It seems like this is the way most things are going in Fedora; wireless, graphics, USB, package management...One day it works, the next it doesnt. It irritates me when something worked just fine for years then a kernel update wipes it completely out. Will it be fixed with the next kernel? It is like playing Russian roulette.

Anyway, just my 2 cents completely out of context with the thread. Good luck with your sound, as an Xfce user I can sympathise.