Graphics + DirectX

clubber · #1 27th March 2008, 09:18 PM

Hello all!

I have finally solved raver all my problems with Linux's Still have some questions. I have installed all needed packages for Fedora so I'm able to listen to music see flash movies on sites etc.
1) My screen's refresh rate is 60 Hz .. but it can do 85 and more. How I can configure this and where?
2) Am I able to play CSS on my Fedora? I have configured Wine, so I can see Steam and have CSS on my computer but It asks for newer DirectX. Looks like mine is 6.14.0.9.. Is there any chance to get it to work?

Can you please describe how I can do that all? I have downloaded latest drivers to my Ati Radeon Sapphire X700 Pro 256 Mb .. video card.
So I have putted them to my /home/cannabis/Downloads/ati-driver-installer-8-3-x86.x86_64.run so file is located here. I have tried to install it and...
First I have installed Livna

Code:

rpm -ivhU http://rpm.livna.org/livna-release-8.1.rpm

then

Code:

yum -y install kernel-devel rpm-build gcc

then

Code:

sh /home/cannabis/Downloads/ati-driver-installer-8-3-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Fedora/F7

then manual says to type this code but I get error of no such file or directory:

Code:

rpm -ivh ATI-fglrx-8.39.4-1.f7.i386.rpm ATI-fglrx-control-center-8.39.4-1.f7.i386.rpm kernel-module-ATI-fglrx-2.6.21-1.3228.fc7-8.39.4-1.f7.i386.rpm

I skipped it and continued with:

Code:

yum -y install kmod-fglrx glx-utils

then

Code:

glxinfo | grep direct

If the output of the above command is: direct rendering: Yes the ATI driver installation was successfully completed ... so it should work?

then manual says to find this ones but there is no such a lines in my xorg.conf...

search for the ServerFlags section. It looks like this:

and replace the "on" with "off"

Then search for the Extensions section. It looks like this:

and replace the "Enable" option with "Disable"

And finally, add the following lines to the end of the file:

My xorg.conf:

Code:

# Xorg configuration created by system-config-display

Section "ServerLayout"
	Identifier     "single head configuration"
	Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
	InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier  "Keyboard0"
	Driver      "kbd"
	Option	    "XkbModel" "pc105"
	Option	    "XkbLayout" "fi"
EndSection

Section "Device"
	Identifier  "Videocard0"
	Driver      "radeon"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
	Identifier "Screen0"
	Device     "Videocard0"
	DefaultDepth     24
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     24
		Modes    "1280x800" "1280x800" "1280x768" "1280x768" "1280x720" "1280x720" "1152x864" "1152x864" "1024x768" "1024x768" "800x600" "800x600" "640x480" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     16
		Modes    "1280x800" "1280x800" "1280x768" "1280x768" "1280x720" "1280x720" "1152x864" "1152x864" "1024x768" "1024x768" "800x600" "800x600" "640x480" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
EndSection

And where I can get to this menu if Im using GNOME instead KDE?

Code:

KMenu -> System -> Livna Display Configuration.

Where I should put my .run file? to use sh command and as manual says type
sh ati-driver-8-2.run
not something like im doing
sh /home/user/ati/ati-driver-8-2.run
?? So it will unpack thouse 3 files in the same folder... ?

Thanx!

ErikJohnson · #2 29th March 2008, 06:36 AM

I guess I will say this.... don't expect Wine to run anything that runs on Windows. It may, but it may not. Don't expect the sky. You probably just want Windows. You can tweak around with the settings in xorg.conf to get the refresh rate to go up, but I'll leave it to you to Google and figure that out because I don't feel like doing it.

Sometimes I wish I had Windows to run Cakewalk and such, but I'm pretty happy with how Wine runs it. Well, I do have Windows; I just choose to never boot to it anymore.

Also, I'm not an ATI/Linux guy so I can't offer you too many suggestions on that. My impression is that ATI is not the best on Linux. I use Nvidia, but it is crashy. I hear it is that way on windows too.

But it does other things better on Linux than ATI.

It doesn't matter where you put the .run file. Just make sure that you are the root user when you issue:

sh /path/to/where/you/put/that/file.run

...as you will probably need to be root to install it. Dunno where it will unpack it, but it's probably irrelevant. It will unpack it somewhere. I wouldn't worry about that.

Also, DirectX is Microsoft graphics technology (comparable to OpenGL open graphics technology) and has nothing to do with "direct rendering" which is something else you referenced.

I think the reason that you have not received any responses thus far is because it is clear that you don't totally know what you are doing yet and need to absorb things some more. Spend an hour or two Googling around to immerse yourself in what you have in front of you, and you will eventually find avenues that will provide you with the help you need. Be prepared to learn.

Aaron_H · #3 29th March 2008, 06:57 AM

Regarding directx, as Erik said, this is windows technology and not something that you can get on Linux (WINE attempts to emulate this, but it does not always run so well).

Direct rendering, is (at a guess) what would be known in the windows world as hardware acceleration (again, this is a guess), rather than software rendering.

WINE can run CSS and CS 1.6 (I did try the other day, for a laugh) but it doesn't run all that well (on high everything on windows I get at least 70fps, whereas low everything on WINE I get 10-30fps.. although if you change the directx version from 9->7 or so you should get better performance. But again, I only did this as a laugh). <-- This is on CSS.

The menu you're looking for in GNOME is at: GNOME menu > System > Administration > Linva Display Configuration (for me anyway).

I cannot help with ATI driver issues as I have no experience with them (sorry), as Erik said, Linux tends to play better with nvidia, although it is not crashy and quite stable for me.

It might also be interesting to note (although I am not anti-microsoft/windows, I do perfer linux), that nvidia drivers were responsible for almost 30% of Vista crashes last year (apparently: http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/n...crashes-in-20/)
- Which I found quite entertaining.

leigh123linux · #4 29th March 2008, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clubber

Hello all!

I have finally solved raver all my problems with Linux's Still have some questions. I have installed all needed packages for Fedora so I'm able to listen to music see flash movies on sites etc.
1) My screen's refresh rate is 60 Hz .. but it can do 85 and more. How I can configure this and where?
2) Am I able to play CSS on my Fedora? I have configured Wine, so I can see Steam and have CSS on my computer but It asks for newer DirectX. Looks like mine is 6.14.0.9.. Is there any chance to get it to work?

Can you please describe how I can do that all? I have downloaded latest drivers to my Ati Radeon Sapphire X700 Pro 256 Mb .. video card.
So I have putted them to my /home/cannabis/Downloads/ati-driver-installer-8-3-x86.x86_64.run so file is located here. I have tried to install it and...
First I have installed Livna

Code:

rpm -ivhU http://rpm.livna.org/livna-release-8.1.rpm

then

Code:

yum -y install kernel-devel rpm-build gcc

then

Code:

sh /home/cannabis/Downloads/ati-driver-installer-8-3-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Fedora/F7

then manual says to type this code but I get error of no such file or directory:

Code:

rpm -ivh ATI-fglrx-8.39.4-1.f7.i386.rpm ATI-fglrx-control-center-8.39.4-1.f7.i386.rpm kernel-module-ATI-fglrx-2.6.21-1.3228.fc7-8.39.4-1.f7.i386.rpm

I skipped it and continued with:

Code:

yum -y install kmod-fglrx glx-utils

then

Code:

glxinfo | grep direct

If the output of the above command is: direct rendering: Yes the ATI driver installation was successfully completed ... so it should work?

then manual says to find this ones but there is no such a lines in my xorg.conf...

search for the ServerFlags section. It looks like this:

and replace the "on" with "off"

Then search for the Extensions section. It looks like this:

and replace the "Enable" option with "Disable"

And finally, add the following lines to the end of the file:

My xorg.conf:

Code:

# Xorg configuration created by system-config-display

Section "ServerLayout"
	Identifier     "single head configuration"
	Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
	InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier  "Keyboard0"
	Driver      "kbd"
	Option	    "XkbModel" "pc105"
	Option	    "XkbLayout" "fi"
EndSection

Section "Device"
	Identifier  "Videocard0"
	Driver      "radeon"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
	Identifier "Screen0"
	Device     "Videocard0"
	DefaultDepth     24
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     24
		Modes    "1280x800" "1280x800" "1280x768" "1280x768" "1280x720" "1280x720" "1152x864" "1152x864" "1024x768" "1024x768" "800x600" "800x600" "640x480" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     16
		Modes    "1280x800" "1280x800" "1280x768" "1280x768" "1280x720" "1280x720" "1152x864" "1152x864" "1024x768" "1024x768" "800x600" "800x600" "640x480" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
EndSection

And where I can get to this menu if Im using GNOME instead KDE?

Code:

KMenu -> System -> Livna Display Configuration.

Where I should put my .run file? to use sh command and as manual says type
sh ati-driver-8-2.run
not something like im doing
sh /home/user/ati/ati-driver-8-2.run
?? So it will unpack thouse 3 files in the same folder... ?

Thanx!

I can't begin to tell you how wrong this is

( By the way you are not using the ATI driver !!!! , The ATI driver is called "fglrx" is xorg.conf not "radeon"

).
As you seem completely clueless on how to install this driver try the guide link in my sig !

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showth...3&page=1&pp=10