Fedora 9 Alpha Link

#1 5th February 2008, 11:07 AM

hope this works for some people , i just found a leak

Jags_FL · #2 5th February 2008, 01:56 PM

Thanks Demz

So its you not Firewing1 this time ...

strikeforce · #3 5th February 2008, 02:30 PM

http://lewk.org/blog/f8-f9alpha-livediff

If you want to see a list of packages.

Kudos I'll be trying it out.

***bob*** · #4 5th February 2008, 02:35 PM

You guys are so BAD!

(downloading now....)

stefan1975 · #5 5th February 2008, 05:26 PM

hi all,

anyone got any feedback on the 9 alpha? I am running F8 right now and rather disappointed with it so I am hoping this will solve some of my(performance) issues.

is there any way to upgrade F8 to F9 alpha byt the way or do I still have to download the install iso?

thanks,
stefan

leigh123linux · #6 5th February 2008, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stefan1975

hi all,

anyone got any feedback on the 9 alpha? I am running F8 right now and rather disappointed with it so I am hoping this will solve some of my(performance) issues.

is there any way to upgrade F8 to F9 alpha byt the way or do I still have to download the install iso?

thanks,
stefan

Rawhide is sluggish

, so I doubt that you will fix your performance issues by running F9 alpha !!

JN4OldSchool · #7 5th February 2008, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leigh123@linux

Rawhide is sluggish

, so I doubt that you will fix your performance issues by running F9 alpha !!

Is this just a product of you running KDE4 or have you used gnome also on the latest? Has this been a trend from the beginning and what are your thoughts on them improving it towards the end of the development cycle? I am DLing the DVD iso now, I will probably also try the live KDE version. I also noticed the first KDE 4 release was not only sluggish, but almost unresponsive at times. I chalked this up to the KDE factor.

scottro · #8 5th February 2008, 06:05 PM

One issue I had when trying to do some minimal installs (by installing F8, then running update after enabling devel) is that I was once again having trouble with the AR5007EG card. It *might* be tied to ConsoleKit in some obscure way. (Anyone interested, do a search with keywords interesting and rawhide.) I didn't notice any real difference in performance, but these were just test installs.

leigh123linux · #9 5th February 2008, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JN4OldSchool

Is this just a product of you running KDE4 or have you used gnome also on the latest? Has this been a trend from the beginning and what are your thoughts on them improving it towards the end of the development cycle? I am DLing the DVD iso now, I will probably also try the live KDE version. I also noticed the first KDE 4 release was not only sluggish, but almost unresponsive at times. I chalked this up to the KDE factor.

On my Rawhide install I have Gnome, KDE4 & XFCE and they all run slow , I had similar issues with F8 test 1 but it was sorted out by test 3 so I expect F9 beta will be quicker .

stefan1975 · #10 5th February 2008, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leigh123@linux

Rawhide is sluggish

, so I doubt that you will fix your performance issues by running F9 alpha !!

mmm that is just too bad. I am currently running F8_x64 and rather satisfied with the overall features but it is SOOooo slow for me and I believe that I have pretty decent hardware. I mean even starting gnome from GDM takes longer then a cold boot of my Arch linux E17 pc which is a elderly P4 with 512mb.

I was hoping that F9 would fix such things like real time app starting, faster X, faster boot, etc. Sometimes it makes me look at Arch for my main work laptop as well, though it does not offer pulseaudo, SELinux or extra-key-support out of the box.

I have read something about Ubuntu 8.04 doing prefetching by default which would speed it up considerably, does anyone know which technique this is, i have searched the specific kernel patches for Arch or Fedora but cannot find any nor do I know if it actually works and I really need an extra performance boost., Hell since the latest performace-pack even M$ Vitsa seems on par (speed wise that is) with F8.

cheers,
stefan.

leigh123linux · #11 5th February 2008, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stefan1975

mmm that is just too bad. I am currently running F8_x64 and rather satisfied with the overall features but it is SOOooo slow for me and I believe that I have pretty decent hardware. I mean even starting gnome from GDM takes longer then a cold boot of my Arch linux E17 pc which is a elderly P4 with 512mb.

I was hoping that F9 would fix such things like real time app starting, faster X, faster boot, etc. Sometimes it makes me look at Arch for my main work laptop as well, though it does not offer pulseaudo, SELinux or extra-key-support out of the box.

I have read something about Ubuntu 8.04 doing prefetching by default which would speed it up considerably, does anyone know which technique this is, i have searched the specific kernel patches for Arch or Fedora but cannot find any nor do I know if it actually works and I really need an extra performance boost., Hell since the latest performace-pack even M$ Vitsa seems on par (speed wise that is) with F8.

cheers,
stefan.

Have you tried preload ?

Code:

su -
yum install preload
chkconfig --level 345 preload on
service preload restart

It should improve startup after 2-3 bootups

Code:

[root@localhost ~]# yum info preload
livna                     100% |=========================| 2.1 kB    00:00     
fedora                    100% |=========================| 2.1 kB    00:00     
fusion                    100% |=========================|  951 B    00:00     
updates                   100% |=========================| 2.3 kB    00:00     
Excluding Packages in global exclude list
Finished
Installed Packages
Name   : preload
Arch   : x86_64
Version: 0.4
Release: 5.fc8
Size   : 81 k
Repo   : installed
Summary: Preload is an adaptive readahead daemon
Description:
preload runs as a daemon and gathers information about processes running on
the system and shared-objects that they use.  This information is saved in a
file to keep across runs of preload


[root@localhost ~]#

strikeforce · #12 5th February 2008, 09:27 PM

Preload will slow down your booting up but will speed up your loading up of applications after bootup. You can tweak it to not be as aggressive if you want.

leigh123linux · #13 5th February 2008, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strikeforce

Preload will slow down your booting up but will speed up your loading up of applications after bootup. You can tweak it to not be as aggressive if you want.

I haven't noticed any slow down on bootup and Gnome seems to load quicker

stefan1975 · #14 5th February 2008, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leigh123@linux

I haven't noticed any slow down on bootup and Gnome seems to load quicker

i will give it a go then. hope it helps (a lot). it has been getting more annoying since I started noticing it and comparing it to other systems. OOo takes +15 seconds to load and FF2 around 10 seconds. Opera 9.5b seems a lot faster on my system and I cannot seem to get used to epiphany although it is much faster. I tried switching my F8 laptop to E17 but the repos available for that don't give me a very stable E17 experience (yes i know it is still beta but Elive and gOS are much more stable with E17).

preload is running now and i will decide what to do when I have it running for some weeks, i also enabled readahead early and late now. wait for F9 to come cheer me up, dive in the Arch way or perhaps give another Ubuntu LTS another go come april. The previous LTS wasnt all too bad either imho, not very fast either though. I probably won't go with those slackware based tiny distros, somehow I cannot grow fond of slack.

stefan

leigh123linux · #15 5th February 2008, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stefan1975

i will give it a go then. hope it helps (a lot). it has been getting more annoying since I started noticing it and comparing it to other systems. OOo takes +15 seconds to load and FF2 around 10 seconds. Opera 9.5b seems a lot faster on my system and I cannot seem to get used to epiphany although it is much faster. I tried switching my F8 laptop to E17 but the repos available for that don't give me a very stable E17 experience (yes i know it is still beta but Elive and gOS are much more stable with E17).

preload is running now and i will decide what to do when I have it running for some weeks, i also enabled readahead early and late now. wait for F9 to come cheer me up, dive in the Arch way or perhaps give another Ubuntu LTS another go come april. The previous LTS wasnt all too bad either imho, not very fast either though. I probably won't go with those slackware based tiny distros, somehow I cannot grow fond of slack.

stefan

I think preload replaces readahead early ( as far as I know readahead early is going to be dropped from Fedora )