kde won't logout

[stranger123]

Hi all, I am experiencing a very weird problem.

Freshly installed Fedora Core 8, updated with "yum update", kde is still 3.5.8 from the original distro. Sometimes kde just refuses to logout. Clicking the logout button from the kde menu does nothing. No any messages in /var/log/messages or .xsession-errors. kde just stays working... I tried to logout using Kshutdown - same thing.

Killing X with Ctrl-Alt-BackSpace works. Next login - I can logout ok, but two or three etc sessions later - same story. This happens with all users including root. Same story with a freshly created test user with absolutely no modifications in any kde settings.

Anyone has any clues?
Thanks.

[marcrblevins]

Very odd what you reported, I don't get that at my end. What is your version?

I'm using at my end:
[root@kiriyamablevins ~]# uname -r
2.6.23.9-85.fc8
[root@kiriyamablevins ~]#

Does the other buttons work? Shutdown, reboot, etc

[stranger123]

Originally Posted by marcrblevins

Very odd what you reported, I don't get that at my end. What is your version?

...Does the other buttons work? Shutdown, reboot, etc

Versions below. The shutdown option is in the window which should be opened when clicking the "Logout" line in the kde start menu, so it is not available to me... All other items ("Switch user". "Lock screen" and all applications) from the kde menu work ok.

I am completely lost. Found a similar post in an Ubhuntu forum with no answers there...

uname -a
Linux apollo 2.6.2Linux apollo 2.6.23.1-42.fc8 #1 SMP Tue Oct 30 13:55:12 EDT 2007 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

rpm -qa|grep kde

kdelibs-3.5.8-7.fc8
kdemultimedia-3.5.8-8.fc8
kde-settings-kdm-3.5-34.fc8
kdenetwork-devel-3.5.8-4.fc8
kde-filesystem-3.92-9.fc8
kdegraphics-3.5.8-5.fc8
kde-i18n-Russian-3.5.8-1.fc8
lockdev-1.0.1-11.fc8.1
kdebase-libs-3.5.8-5.fc8
kdegraphics-libs-3.5.8-5.fc8
kdegraphics-extras-3.5.8-5.fc8
kdenetwork-3.5.8-4.fc8
kdebindings-dcopperl-3.5.8-1.fc8
kdeartwork-3.5.8-1.fc8
kdeaccessibility-3.5.8-3.fc8
kdegraphics-devel-3.5.8-5.fc8
kdebase-devel-3.5.8-5.fc8
kdenetwork-libs-3.5.8-4.fc8
kdebase-3.5.8-5.fc8
kdemultimedia-libs-3.5.8-8.fc8
compiz-kde-0.6.2-3.fc8
lockdev-devel-1.0.1-11.fc8.1
kdelibs-devel-3.5.8-7.fc8
kde-settings-3.5-34.fc8
kdeutils-3.5.8-3.fc8
kde-settings-pulseaudio-3.5-34.fc8

[schwerdf]

I have experienced a similar problem with KDE. It appears to be affected by the kernel version as it waxes and wanes with the kernel updates.

[linuxpcmancn]

It's really very weird.i experienced the similar problem with KDE,but when i switched to gnome,everything seems to be fine.so i uninstalled KDE and make gnome as my default desktop environment

[marcrblevins]

See if this makes any differences, might install something that are missing:

su -
yum groupinstall "KDE (K Desktop Environment)" "GNOME Desktop Environment"  "X Software Development"

Then reboot.

[Deltanoob]

press ctrl + alt + backspace
this will force your session to terminate. And i do mean force, so make sure anything important is saved.
Or you can go to a terminal and type

reboot 

or 

halt

Good luck

[stranger123]

Originally Posted by Deltanoob

press ctrl + alt + backspace

Sorry but that is not a solution....

Upgraded the kernel - will see if this helps.

Thanks for all your posts.

should update the kernel at all times to see if it fix's a problem , if it doesnt dont remove older kernel

[Manimalien]

I had the same problem with my Fedora KDE install. I would recommend kshutdown. If you do not have kshutdown already installed, install it via the package manager. Then you can add an applet to your KDE panel to shutdown, restart, or lock your session. It works quite nicely for me. I hope this helps you.

[stranger123]

Originally Posted by Manimalien

I had the same problem with my Fedora KDE install. I would recommend kshutdown. If you do not have kshutdown already installed, install it via the package manager. Then you can add an applet to your KDE panel to shutdown, restart, or lock your session. It works quite nicely for me. I hope this helps you.

As I said earlier, kshutdown does not help in this situation. It probably uses the same signals as kde itself so trying to log out fails just like when using standard kde buttons. Locking/shutdown works but those were not a problem... I could do these with kde.

Actually after upgrading the kernel to the latest version fron the Fedora "updates" dir (it is something like 2.6.23-59 or 69 - cannot remember now, I am on a different computer at the moment), the problem went away. Go figure...

Thanks for all your comments.

[Deltanoob]

uname -a will give you kernel info....what? I had to be helpful some how lol.

[Manimalien]

Originally Posted by stranger123

As I said earlier, kshutdown does not help in this situation. It probably uses the same signals as kde itself so trying to log out fails just like when using standard kde buttons. Locking/shutdown works but those were not a problem... I could do these with kde.

Actually after upgrading the kernel to the latest version fron the Fedora "updates" dir (it is something like 2.6.23-59 or 69 - cannot remember now, I am on a different computer at the moment), the problem went away. Go figure...

Thanks for all your comments.

I apologize for my mistake in not realizing that you had tried kshutdown to no avail. The reason I recommended the program was because I had the same logout problem using KDE with Fedora and kshutdown seemed to solve my problem.

Nevertheless, I am glad to know that you resolved the situation.