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Old 10th January 2008, 05:05 PM
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Yes I'm still trying to install ATI driver..
I just need the X11 / Gnome / KDE to work so that I can use the GUI..

I don't need it for playing games, so i guess accelerater or more advanced features aren't needed...


and thanks to Dan, I want to see if I can still re-use this rather old card, since I can still see its name appearing on websites..
You are wasting your time trying to use fglrx ( the ATI driver ) as you card is not supported ( the last driver to support your card was 8.28 ) in Fedora since FC5 ( the ati driver wont work with anything newer due to the kernel and xorg versions )

Yoyr only choice is the open source radeon driver that is supplied with Fedora .
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Old 10th January 2008, 05:07 PM
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You are wasting your time trying to use fglrx ( the ATI driver ) as you card is not supported in Fedora since FC5 ( the ati driver wont work with anything newer due to the kernel and xorg versions )

Yoyr only choice is the open source radeon driver that is supplied with Fedora .
Oh, I haven't come across any guides that guide me through using the radeon driver supplied with Fedora...
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OK. Good luck with it.

I hit that issue with an on-board nVIDIA 400 chipset, and after several weeks of chasing bugs and my own tail ... I broke down and just spent the 30 bucks and have been sailing smooth since then.


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Old 10th January 2008, 05:11 PM
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Oh, I haven't come across any guides that guide me through using the radeon driver supplied with Fedora...

Try this xorg.conf


Code:
# Xorg configuration created by livna-config-display

Section "ServerLayout"
  Identifier "Default Layout"
  Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
  InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
  ModulePath "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
  Option "AIGLX" "on"
EndSection

Section "Input Device"
  Identifier "Keyboard0"
  Driver "kbd"
  Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
  Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "Device"
  Identifier "Videocard0"
  Driver "radeon"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
  Identifier "Screen0"
  Device "Videocard0"
  DefaultDepth 24
  SubSection "Display"
    Viewport 0 0
    Depth 24
  EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
  Option "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection
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Old 13th January 2008, 04:40 PM
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Try this xorg.conf


Code:
# Xorg configuration created by livna-config-display

Section "ServerLayout"
  Identifier "Default Layout"
  Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
  InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
  ModulePath "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
  Option "AIGLX" "on"
EndSection

Section "Input Device"
  Identifier "Keyboard0"
  Driver "kbd"
  Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
  Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "Device"
  Identifier "Videocard0"
  Driver "radeon"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
  Identifier "Screen0"
  Device "Videocard0"
  DefaultDepth 24
  SubSection "Display"
    Viewport 0 0
    Depth 24
  EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
  Option "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection

Thanks for the advice first!

"startx" works without showing errors immediately but the screen turns black
then the monitor shows "Frequency Out Of Range"

Maybe a problem with the frequency / color depth setting?
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Old 13th January 2008, 04:55 PM
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Thanks for the advice first!

"startx" works without showing errors immediately but the screen turns black
then the monitor shows "Frequency Out Of Range"

Maybe a problem with the frequency / color depth setting?
Try running system-config-display and select a monitor that matches your hardware




from a shell as root type ( to get a shell press ctrl + alt + F5 altogether )


Code:
system-config-display
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Try running system-config-display and select a monitor that matches your hardware




from a shell as root type ( to get a shell press ctrl + alt + F5 altogether )


Code:
system-config-display

actually i'm running on text mode
(editing at GRUB, INIT level 3)


Here's the output of the above command..

Code:
Couldn't start X server on card 0
Couldn't start X server on card 1
Couldn't start X server with old config, try with a fresh configuration
then the same thing happened,
black screen, "Frequency out of range"
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Old 13th January 2008, 05:34 PM
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actually i'm running on text mode
(editing at GRUB, INIT level 3)


Here's the output of the above command..

Code:
Couldn't start X server on card 0
Couldn't start X server on card 1
Couldn't start X server with old config, try with a fresh configuration
then the same thing happened,
black screen, "Frequency out of range"
What monitor do you have and have you got the specs for it i.e refresh rates for both vertical and horizontal ?
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Old 13th January 2008, 05:53 PM
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What monitor do you have and have you got the specs for it i.e refresh rates for both vertical and horizontal ?
it's a NEC multisync LCD 1525x

searching gives me the spec. as follows


Max Resolution
1024 x 768 / 75 Hz

Colour support
24-bit (16.7 million colours)

Max Sync Rate (V x H)
75 Hz x 60 kHz

Front Panel Controls
Power on/off, reset settings, adjust +/- , select, menu

On-Screen Controls
Contrast, brightness, H/V-position, H/V-size, language select, colour adjustment

Interface
DVI, VGA (HD-15)



I guess you mean that I have to perform further modifications to xorg.conf, right?
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it's a NEC multisync LCD 1525x

searching gives me the spec. as follows


Max Resolution
1024 x 768 / 75 Hz

Colour support
24-bit (16.7 million colours)

Max Sync Rate (V x H)
75 Hz x 60 kHz

Front Panel Controls
Power on/off, reset settings, adjust +/- , select, menu

On-Screen Controls
Contrast, brightness, H/V-position, H/V-size, language select, colour adjustment

Interface
DVI, VGA (HD-15)



I guess you mean that I have to perform further modifications to xorg.conf, right?

Try

Code:
# Xorg configuration created by livna-config-display

Section "ServerLayout"
  Identifier "Default Layout"
  Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
  InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
  ModulePath "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
  Option "AIGLX" "on"
EndSection

Section "Input Device"
  Identifier "Keyboard0"
  Driver "kbd"
  Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
  Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
	Identifier   "Monitor0"
	VendorName   "NEC"
	ModelName    "NEC multisync LCD 1525"
	HorizSync    24.8 - 60.0
	VertRefresh  56.2 - 75.1
	Option	    "dpms"
EndSection

Section "Device"
  Identifier "Videocard0"
  Driver "radeon"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
  Identifier "Screen0"
  Device "Videocard0"
  Monitor    "Monitor0"
  DefaultDepth 24
  SubSection "Display"
    Viewport 0 0
    Depth 24
    Modes "1024x768"
  EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
  Option "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection
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Try

Code:
# Xorg configuration created by livna-config-display

Section "ServerLayout"
  Identifier "Default Layout"
  Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
  InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
  ModulePath "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
  Option "AIGLX" "on"
EndSection

Section "Input Device"
  Identifier "Keyboard0"
  Driver "kbd"
  Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
  Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
	Identifier   "Monitor0"
	VendorName   "NEC"
	ModelName    "NEC multisync LCD 1525"
	HorizSync    24.8 - 60.0
	VertRefresh  56.2 - 75.1
	Option	    "dpms"
EndSection

Section "Device"
  Identifier "Videocard0"
  Driver "radeon"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
  Identifier "Screen0"
  Device "Videocard0"
  Monitor    "Monitor0"
  DefaultDepth 24
  SubSection "Display"
    Viewport 0 0
    Depth 24
    Modes "1024x768"
  EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
  Option "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection
I've got that "Frequency out of range" again.


One thing I noted is that
After I executed the command,
Some of the configurations in xorg.conf is changed by the system.
e.g. "AIGLX" "on" becomes "off"

Guess system-config-display checked the packages installed, and did refresh on the configurations...

Should I remove all those packages I installed (or perhaps reinstall the Fedora7) before I try again?
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I've got that "Frequency out of range" again.


One thing I noted is that
After I executed the command,
Some of the configurations in xorg.conf is changed by the system.
e.g. "AIGLX" "on" becomes "off"

Guess system-config-display checked the packages installed, and did refresh on the configurations...

Should I remove all those packages I installed (or perhaps reinstall the Fedora7) before I try again?

Try editing this line

from

Code:
Option	    "dpms"

to

Code:
#Option	    "dpms"
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Try editing this line

from

Code:
Option	    "dpms"

to

Code:
#Option	    "dpms"
The "frequency out of range" thing disappeared

But X Window System returns an error..



Code:
[trimmed]

(==)Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log"
(==)Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found
(EE) No devices detected.

Fatal server error:
no screens found
XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"
     after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
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Try removing fglrx ( it's no use to you as your card is unsupported by it )


Code:
su
yum erase livna-config-display kmod-fglrx

and reboot

after check xorg.conf and make sure the radeon driver is used

Code:
Section "Device"
  Identifier "Videocard0"
  Driver "radeon"
EndSection
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Try removing fglrx ( it's no use to you as your card is unsupported by it )


Code:
su
yum erase livna-config-display kmod-fglrx

and reboot

after check xorg.conf and make sure the radeon driver is used

Code:
Section "Device"
  Identifier "Videocard0"
  Driver "radeon"
EndSection
The "frequency out of range" thing reappear

i thought removing the packages causes the system to change some of the lines in xorg.conf
but i double checked everything, and there aren't any changes.

the config. fragment you gave is there i.e. the radeon driver is now being used.
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