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Old 18th November 2007, 10:02 PM
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XPS-M1710 -- Fedora8 Install Lessons Learned (ipw3945, compiz-fusion)

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Some lessons learned, the hard way -- perhaps can save someone else the pain ;-)

[ 1 ] At first I was disappointed with Fedora 8 .... my main disappointment was with the network wifi support. I normally, post Fedora install (I don't upgrade), and post kernel upgrades, have to recompile an ipw3945 driver and ipw3945d task. Been doing it since Fedora5, well ... I did it this time, and bam the trouble began ... it appears as others have noted the all wireless NICs are seen as wlan# now, and trying to alias an eth# interface to the module for your wifi card isn't working, at least for me. So I spun my wheels for a day trying to get the dang ipw3945 driver to work when I stumbled upon the iwl3945 module ;-) Ahh, built in support eh ... well...having a saved image of my hard drive, I figured I would blow it away and reinstall, this time not compiling ipw3945 --- iwl3945 worked like a charm right-out-of-the-box ... no little green network activity light on the laptop, which was nice since it at least told you before the kernel layer sees the hardware ... but eh ... there is the kernel ring buffer to look in for that ... so:

MORAL #1: IPW3945 users DO NOT install the 3rd party ipw3945 driver or daemon, use the built in iwl3945 driver...the activity light will not turn on even though the kernel sees your wifi NIC.

[ 2 ] Compiz-Fusion --- well i expected this to be difficult since anytime you baseline an application that has been a part of the community for severla builds you run the risk of averse interactions ... after following the much published REMOVE FEDORA version and install the community built packages I had issues with EMERALD ... namely, the base user I created during the install kept having issues with window decorations (borders, etc) and Gnome would just freeze altogether when Compiz-Fusion Icon was activated ... all the proper configuration was there ... so i figured I would create a new user and see what happens ... well thus far I have not had any issues ... I removed and deleted numerous old user .compiz configuration directories in the users homedir, but still it had issues ... only the newly created post-compiz installation user had flawless COMPIZ.

Moral #2: How to troubleshoot Compiz Fusion Problems:

(1) Create a new user and test out compiz for that newly created user; if compiz works, go and configure a few things, reboot a few times ... I (1) logged out properly, then (2) suspended to disk and RAM, (3) logged out while having numerous applications running in the foreground, (4) hard rebooted while logged in ... and compiz was still stable when I logged back .... the user whom I created during the install had issues galore, but the user created post compiz installation hasn't had any issues thus far

[ 3 ] Um, IcedTea, yeah .... again I guess I should pay more attention to the release notes, but I am stubborn and think I can do things better than everyone else, don't we all, so I just plowed ahead downloading the new java rpms, using alternatives, blah blah, and had issues ... well, then I noticed a java-icedtea packaged and so read the release notes ... AHHHH -- how nice of Fedora to include a java plugin for me already ... and you know, it works right-out-of-the-box ... so

MORAL #3: DONT install any java plugin, icedTea, installed during a default installtion, works like a champ

[4 ] Encrypted swap --- aha, again, READ THE RELEASE NOTES BRAD....yeah so no more steps making udev random etc etc...built in support of encrypted non-root partitions, YAY

MORAL #4: READ THE RELEASE NOTES


I guess in the end I just wanted to publically apologize for being so hard on poor Fedora 8 during the first 3 days I have had it installed on my laptop ... sure NetworkManager is a bit annoying, but just unencrypt your network --- it isn't a huge deal for me, NM shows 4 other networks around me, all unencrypted, I gave it a try and connected to one, HA, admin, admin to get into their router (LOL) -- so I am pretty sure those around me don't even know how to login to their router ;-) and as long as I have clamped down with iptables, etc ... it isn't a big deal

Anyway --- I guess the big thing was Compiz --- if you guys think you tried everything to get compiz to work, create a new user and see if that does it for you ... I spent hours troubleshooting, doing everything all the lists told me, but in the end a newly created user post compiz install works like a champ

Thanks for listening .... now off to get my vanity lights working ;-)

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Old 19th November 2007, 02:18 AM
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Some lessons learned, the hard way -- perhaps can save someone else the pain ;-)
Here are my comments on FC8 on a Dell M90:

1) Anaconda crashed on me during the install after spending 20 min. customizing packages. I didn't believe the error message, so I tried it again...same problem. The problem was when Anaconda was including my FAT32 partition (which I didn't reformat for the install). So I didn't add the FAT32 partition to the partitions...left it blank and added it to /etc/fstab afterwards. Earlier versions Fedora didn't have this problem.

2) Intel 3945 wireless did work out of the box, but same issue here, the radio light isn't lit. Well, I should say it worked after I started the wpa_supplicant. I added that service to startup and it fails complaining about an error about an unknown bus or something. However, my 3945 still works.

3) After adding the kmod-nvidia drivers from the livna repository, my system fonts morphed into humongous entities. I'm still researching how to control this....the xorg.conf file seems to be shrinking in size the last year or so. Not much to configure.

4) Bluetooth seems to be having some issue as well. I think I got it, but for some reason my start up service choices seem to be getting corrupted. I stopped using the 'setup' text window, and only used the 'chkconfig' command-line tool. Bluetooth kept getting unchecked for startup.

5) The Dell M90 has the dual core intel processors. However, irqbalance service fails on startup. I'm still researching this one too.

Overall, seems stable, but as always, there certainly could be more testing before releases.

Thanks Fedora Development Team.
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