Help with Livna, FreshRpms, and YUM

tauro_kpo · #1 10th August 2007, 09:50 PM

Hi everyone! I could really use a hand on all this.

I just installed Fedora 7, and I was setting up the repositories, first I did it with Livna and then with FreshRPMs.

Well, I forbade Livna for downloading Mplayer, Mencoder, FFMpeg and VLC, but I think I should add more to this list, shouldn't I?

I did this, I added:

Code:

exclude=mplayer* mencoder* ffmpeg* vlc

To the livna.repo.

Now I was prompted when I rebooted the computer, with the PUP application, the one that tells you to update your system. And it tells me that I have to update faad2, libdca, vcdimager, x264, xmms-mp3. As I can see, the older version, the one that it is in my system was downloaded with livna, and those new, I don't know from which repository are supposed to come, just in case, I didn't accept to update until I get more info.

In the past I've had problems with faad2 as I can remember, so I don't want to have them again.

What is the solution? Should I add some "not-to-download" programs more (like Mplayer on livna, for example) to the livna.repo, or to the freshrpms.repo?
Or should I remove freshrpms? or livna? Can't they co-exist?

I think this is one of the points that should be fixed so that the user won't have so many problems.

Would you please throw me a life preserver before this installation of Fedora gets ruined??
I'm so confused with all this!

sebnukem · #2 10th August 2007, 10:10 PM

What I would do if i was you would be enabling one 3rd party repo by default (say freshrpms) and disable the other one. I would regularly update with the defaults settings (Fedora + Freshrpms) and occasionally check updates available on Livna (--enablerepo=livna check-update).

I think Livna & Freshrpms can coexist but they overlap a lot.

markkuk · #3 10th August 2007, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tauro_kpo

I just installed Fedora 7, and I was setting up the repositories, first I did it with Livna and then with FreshRPMs.

You shouldn't enable both Livna and Freshrpms. Pick one and stay with it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tauro_kpo

I think this is one of the points that should be fixed so that the user won't have so many problems.

The Fedora project isn't responsible for third-party repos and can't control their compatibility with each other. It's your job to keep the repo configuration of your machine in working order.

tauro_kpo · #4 10th August 2007, 10:21 PM

Why, thanks a lot for helping!

I'd like to try what you suggested, but, I don't know how to permanently disable livna, and to check for updates just when I want. How would I do this?

Thanks!

***Dangermouse*** · #5 10th August 2007, 10:24 PM

Hello theres a simple answer i found here it was

Quote:

su
yum -y install yum-protectbase
su -c 'perl -i -pe "s/(\[.*\])/\1\nprotect=yes/" /etc/yum.repos.d/{fedora*,livna*}'

this will stop the dependencies/mix up problems

***bob*** · #6 10th August 2007, 10:27 PM

Sign into a terminal as root (su -) and then use your favorite text editor (like gedit, for instance) to change the 'enabled=1' to 'enabled=0' for livna. Here's an example:

Quote:

su -

(give your password) then:

Quote:

gedit /etc/yum.repos.d/livna.repo

That opens a separate window with Livna's information. Change "enabled=1" to "enabled=0" and then save and close that window.

Finally, type 'exit' to leave root and save your work. Yum should now complete it's updates without using livna.

sebnukem · #7 10th August 2007, 10:27 PM

To disable livna, edit the /etc/yum.repos.d/livna.repo:
enabled=0

To use it occasionally add --enablerepo=livna to your yum command:
yum --enablerepo=livna check-update

tauro_kpo · #8 10th August 2007, 10:31 PM

Bob, sebnukem, thanks a lot! Now that Dangermouse says so, isn't a better idea to do what he's telling? I mean, just you tell me and I'll do whatever is best.

markkuk, How am I supposed to use Fedora without third party repositories? I think, it's quite awkward and uncomfortable. Instead of sermoning me, help a brother out.

Thank you all!

***bob*** · #9 10th August 2007, 10:34 PM

Dangermouse has an excellent idea with the 'protectbase' plugin, plus the guy knows coding! I'm in awe and will defer to him.

sebnukem · #10 10th August 2007, 10:34 PM

I don't know I've never tried or thought about Dangermouse solution. Give it a try and tell us how it goes

tauro_kpo · #11 10th August 2007, 11:18 PM

All was pink coloured but, oops :-( all is sad now!

Code:

[root@localhost tauro]# yum -y install yum-protectbase
Loading "installonlyn" plugin
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Could not retrieve mirrorlist http://ayo.freshrpms.net/fedora/linux/7/mirrors-freshrpms error was
[Errno 4] IOError: <urlopen error (110, 'Connection timed out')>
Error: Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: freshrpms

When I was trying to install what Dangermouse said, look what I got :-S

What is wrong here??? ! :-(

leigh123linux · #12 10th August 2007, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tauro_kpo

All was pink coloured but, oops :-( all is sad now!

Code:

[root@localhost tauro]# yum -y install yum-protectbase
Loading "installonlyn" plugin
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Could not retrieve mirrorlist http://ayo.freshrpms.net/fedora/linux/7/mirrors-freshrpms error was
[Errno 4] IOError: <urlopen error (110, 'Connection timed out')>
Error: Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: freshrpms

When I was trying to install what Dangermouse said, look what I got :-S

What is wrong here??? ! :-(

The freshrpms repo has been erratic today ( I had to disable it to update because the mirror was down )

tauro_kpo · #13 10th August 2007, 11:28 PM

Thank you for telling, now miraculously it has worked, so I downloaded "yum-protectbase". And now what?

What is this -c 'perl -i -pe "s/(\[.*\])/\1\nprotect=yes/" /etc/yum.repos.d/{fedora*,livna*}' ?

I have copied this
su -c 'perl -i -pe "s/(\[.*\])/\1\nprotect=yes/" /etc/yum.repos.d/{fedora*,livna*}' and pasted it on a terminal window, and asked me for the su password, I gave it to it, and nothing happened. Now all problems are fixed??

sebnukem · #14 10th August 2007, 11:46 PM

I'd say that the Perl script adds a protect=yes in your repo definition files. Check all the fedora and livna.repo files in /etc/yum.repos.d/ to find out.

tauro_kpo · #15 11th August 2007, 12:35 AM

Yes! What you said is truth, it adds a protect=yes to all the files in the directory /etc/yum.repos.d/
Is that good?

My advice to all of the users of Livna and FreshRPMs is to add this in the livna.repo file (editing as root)

Locate this two lines:
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-livna

After them, you'll have to add:

exclude=mplayer* mencoder* ffmpeg* vlc x264 ffmpeg-libs xine-lib-extras-nonfree

And that's it, and will solve you a lot of problems.

For the moment, I'll leave the protect=yes fix installed, I think it won't bother, will it? And I'm leaving the two repositories to work at the same time.

I found another great app that will help you a lot, it is called yumex, it is a yum manager in x, very useful and handy.

I hope this helps someone else, and please answer my little questions.

Thanks a lot to all those who helped!