Windows & Linux

type568 · #1 24th July 2007, 02:02 AM

I migrated here. And, of course I'm lacking some experience which only windows can give. Is it possible to install windows on a virtual machine? (No doubt it will be slower, but..)

I suppose such an imitation would give a lot better experience then it's wine equivalent.

Thanks..

pparks1 · #2 24th July 2007, 02:36 AM

Absolutely. I run both Windows virtual machines on Linux hosts and Linux virtual machines on Windows hosts.

Depending upon your PC, you might not hardly notice. I've got a Dell GX745 at work, with a 2.13 Core 2 Duo, 4GB of RAM and a 10k RPM raptor drive and it runs multiple OS's without breaking a sweat....even though XP is my HOST os.

type568 · #3 24th July 2007, 02:46 AM

WOW. Now I can see full advantage of dual cores.

Thank you.
Ah, by the way: How does it work with all the drivers, monitor, Input, how to switch between'em, Hoe does the hosted see the host, what happens with the internet?

And it's just first up in to my mind.

Edit: How bad would it hit the performance of the one being hosted? I have BiG problems installing my Nvidia driver, Can I just install it on windows?

Edit(1): My CPU can't support full virtuallization, does it mean I can't emulate windows?
Can I please get some startup point for making my machine?

Thanks.

pparks1 · #4 24th July 2007, 02:50 AM

Drivers are interesting. VMWare (which is what I use), presents very generic drivers to the actual virtual machine. This way it's almost a guarantee that they will work and it keeps the environment consistent. For example, I can create a virtual machine, give it to you and it will work perfectly on your computer.

As far as switching between them, it's simply running in a window. You just go to the other window and there it is.

You have multiple options as far as networking goes. Normally, it gets it's own IP address and just looks like any other computer on the network. You can also do a NAT through your host PC as well as running HOST only networking...which only allows the virtual machines to talk to each other.

Without a doubt, virtualization is my favorite technology in the past few years. Nothing else has captured my attention and interest like virtualization.

type568 · #5 24th July 2007, 02:55 AM

My god.. computers are my life. And I never knew there is such a possibility.. Is this technology new? Please, some startup..

pparks1 · #6 24th July 2007, 02:57 AM

Nope, the technology has been around for years....but has really been coming it's own in the past two years.

Primary reason is that both Microsoft and VMWare released free products on the market. MS offers Virtual PC and Virtual Server free of charge and VMWare has VMWare Server for free. The Linux support is FAR BETTER in VMWare and in my opinion there are more features and performance with VMWare.

Check it out at www.vmware.com and download VMWare server. They have versions for both Windows and Linux.

type568 · #7 24th July 2007, 03:00 AM

And the default Linux (well, fedora, no idea what package..) emulator not good?

Edit:
How come I can't see any verification image here? :S
https://www28.cplan.com/pls/pg_vmware/c166_reg.reg

pparks1 · #8 24th July 2007, 03:18 AM

I use the VMWare products (both free) and enterprise for work related stuff....so I haven't played around with Xen or Qemu at all. VMware has been in this arena for longer than anybody else and their products just work great, so I stick with 'em.

type568 · #9 24th July 2007, 05:26 AM

Affirmative commander.

I love Norton ghost. Especially the #9 (Norton ghost is a program, for backup and recovery of partitions, able to set'em for boot). It been the best security for me for years. Before migrating to Linux, I made backup of my system. And HOLA, this emulator supports Norton ghost 9 format. It's great

Thanks for great solution bro. I'll see around if it works also..

Edit: Ah, ups. I thought you suggest me to stick with'em.

type568 · #10 24th July 2007, 07:00 AM

Bad: the current VMware, requiters core that differs from mine. I found a tutorial, which links to some correction for a config, of the VMware installation, but it returns 404 (page not found).

Can somebody help me? Thanks. By the way: VMware, looks like great solution, a lot better then wine, In almost all cases.

type568 · #11 26th July 2007, 02:27 AM

http://www.f8d.org/?c=75

Really, take a look. About virtual machines.

North323 · #12 26th July 2007, 03:13 AM

ok i am running XP (its for work) and installed MS free product and trying to create a linux virtual host. can this be done on NTFS drive? the install seems to be stuck on "time: tsc clocksource has been installed"

any ideas?

marko · #13 26th July 2007, 03:52 AM

Another good one to try is virtual box by innotek

http://www.virtualbox.org/
http://www.softpedia.com/reviews/win...ew-50160.shtml

Mark

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