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Old 3rd July 2012, 06:12 PM
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Re: Howto for fglrx / catalyst (Ati driver)

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The 12.6 isn't working for my Radeon HD 6470
It looks like they skipped the HD 64xx line entirely on this one.

http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles...easeNotes.aspx

Sucks for me too, I use an HD 6450.


Nevermind, it seems that the drivers decided to work.

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Old 6th July 2012, 04:12 PM
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Re: Howto for fglrx / catalyst (Ati driver)

Well hell must have frozen over

Ati have released a legacy driver which is compatible with F17 and the 3.4 kernel (no patching required)

http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles...yproducts.aspx


Code:
[leigh@main-pc ~]$ uname -r
3.4.4-3.fc17.x86_64
[leigh@main-pc ~]$ glxinfo 
name of display: :0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: ATI
server glx version string: 1.4
server glx extensions:
    GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, 
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_OML_swap_method, 
    GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGIS_multisample, 
    GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group
client glx vendor string: ATI
client glx version string: 1.4
client glx extensions:
    GLX_ARB_create_context, GLX_ARB_create_context_profile, 
    GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, 
    GLX_EXT_swap_control, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, 
    GLX_MESA_allocate_memory, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_MESA_swap_control, 
    GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_NV_swap_group, GLX_OML_swap_method, 
    GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_sync, 
    GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, 
    GLX_SGIX_swap_barrier, GLX_SGIX_swap_group, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group, 
    GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB, 
    GLX_ARB_fbconfig_float, GLX_AMD_gpu_association
GLX version: 1.4
GLX extensions:
    GLX_ARB_create_context, GLX_ARB_create_context_profile, 
    GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, 
    GLX_EXT_swap_control, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, 
    GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_NV_swap_group, GLX_OML_swap_method, 
    GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_sync, 
    GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, 
    GLX_SGIX_swap_barrier, GLX_SGIX_swap_group, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group, 
    GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap
OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 4250      
OpenGL version string: 3.3.11653 Compatibility Profile Context
OpenGL shading language version string: 3.30
OpenGL extensions:
    GL_AMDX_debug_output, GL_AMD_conservative_depth, GL_AMD_debug_output, 
    GL_AMD_depth_clamp_separate, GL_AMD_draw_buffers_blend, 
    GL_AMD_name_gen_delete, GL_AMD_performance_monitor, GL_AMD_pinned_memory, 
    GL_AMD_sample_positions, GL_AMD_shader_stencil_export, 
    GL_ARB_ES2_compatibility, GL_ARB_base_instance, 
    GL_ARB_blend_func_extended, GL_ARB_color_buffer_float, 
    GL_ARB_compressed_texture_pixel_storage, GL_ARB_conservative_depth, 
    GL_ARB_copy_buffer, GL_ARB_depth_buffer_float, GL_ARB_depth_clamp, 
    GL_ARB_depth_texture, GL_ARB_draw_buffers, GL_ARB_draw_buffers_blend, 
    GL_ARB_draw_elements_base_vertex, GL_ARB_draw_instanced, 
    GL_ARB_explicit_attrib_location, GL_ARB_fragment_coord_conventions, 
    GL_ARB_fragment_program, GL_ARB_fragment_program_shadow, 
    GL_ARB_fragment_shader, GL_ARB_framebuffer_object, 
    GL_ARB_framebuffer_sRGB, GL_ARB_geometry_shader4, 
    GL_ARB_get_program_binary, GL_ARB_half_float_pixel, 
    GL_ARB_half_float_vertex, GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_instanced_arrays, 
    GL_ARB_internalformat_query, GL_ARB_map_buffer_alignment, 
    GL_ARB_map_buffer_range, GL_ARB_multisample, GL_ARB_multitexture, 
    GL_ARB_occlusion_query, GL_ARB_occlusion_query2, 
    GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object, GL_ARB_point_parameters, GL_ARB_point_sprite, 
    GL_ARB_provoking_vertex, GL_ARB_sampler_objects, GL_ARB_seamless_cube_map, 
    GL_ARB_separate_shader_objects, GL_ARB_shader_bit_encoding, 
    GL_ARB_shader_objects, GL_ARB_shader_precision, 
    GL_ARB_shader_stencil_export, GL_ARB_shader_texture_lod, 
    GL_ARB_shading_language_100, GL_ARB_shading_language_420pack, 
    GL_ARB_shading_language_packing, GL_ARB_shadow, GL_ARB_shadow_ambient, 
    GL_ARB_sync, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp, GL_ARB_texture_buffer_object, 
    GL_ARB_texture_buffer_object_rgb32, GL_ARB_texture_compression, 
    GL_ARB_texture_compression_rgtc, GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, 
    GL_ARB_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, 
    GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3, 
    GL_ARB_texture_float, GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat, 
    GL_ARB_texture_multisample, GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two, 
    GL_ARB_texture_rectangle, GL_ARB_texture_rg, GL_ARB_texture_rgb10_a2ui, 
    GL_ARB_texture_snorm, GL_ARB_texture_storage, GL_ARB_timer_query, 
    GL_ARB_transform_feedback2, GL_ARB_transform_feedback3, 
    GL_ARB_transform_feedback_instanced, GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, 
    GL_ARB_uniform_buffer_object, GL_ARB_vertex_array_bgra, 
    GL_ARB_vertex_array_object, GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object, 
    GL_ARB_vertex_program, GL_ARB_vertex_shader, 
    GL_ARB_vertex_type_2_10_10_10_rev, GL_ARB_viewport_array, 
    GL_ARB_window_pos, GL_ATI_draw_buffers, GL_ATI_envmap_bumpmap, 
    GL_ATI_fragment_shader, GL_ATI_meminfo, GL_ATI_separate_stencil, 
    GL_ATI_texture_compression_3dc, GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3, 
    GL_ATI_texture_float, GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once, GL_EXT_abgr, 
    GL_EXT_bgra, GL_EXT_bindable_uniform, GL_EXT_blend_color, 
    GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate, GL_EXT_blend_func_separate, 
    GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array, 
    GL_EXT_copy_buffer, GL_EXT_copy_texture, GL_EXT_direct_state_access, 
    GL_EXT_draw_buffers2, GL_EXT_draw_instanced, GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, 
    GL_EXT_fog_coord, GL_EXT_framebuffer_blit, GL_EXT_framebuffer_multisample, 
    GL_EXT_framebuffer_object, GL_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB, 
    GL_EXT_geometry_shader4, GL_EXT_gpu_program_parameters, 
    GL_EXT_gpu_shader4, GL_EXT_histogram, GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays, 
    GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil, GL_EXT_packed_float, GL_EXT_packed_pixels, 
    GL_EXT_pixel_buffer_object, GL_EXT_point_parameters, 
    GL_EXT_provoking_vertex, GL_EXT_rescale_normal, GL_EXT_secondary_color, 
    GL_EXT_separate_specular_color, GL_EXT_shadow_funcs, GL_EXT_stencil_wrap, 
    GL_EXT_subtexture, GL_EXT_texgen_reflection, GL_EXT_texture3D, 
    GL_EXT_texture_array, GL_EXT_texture_buffer_object, 
    GL_EXT_texture_compression_latc, GL_EXT_texture_compression_rgtc, 
    GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc, GL_EXT_texture_cube_map, 
    GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp, GL_EXT_texture_env_add, 
    GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3, 
    GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic, GL_EXT_texture_integer, 
    GL_EXT_texture_lod, GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias, GL_EXT_texture_mirror_clamp, 
    GL_EXT_texture_object, GL_EXT_texture_rectangle, GL_EXT_texture_sRGB, 
    GL_EXT_texture_shared_exponent, GL_EXT_texture_snorm, 
    GL_EXT_texture_storage, GL_EXT_texture_swizzle, GL_EXT_timer_query, 
    GL_EXT_transform_feedback, GL_EXT_vertex_array, GL_EXT_vertex_array_bgra, 
    GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_KTX_buffer_region, GL_NV_blend_square, 
    GL_NV_conditional_render, GL_NV_copy_depth_to_color, GL_NV_copy_image, 
    GL_NV_explicit_multisample, GL_NV_float_buffer, GL_NV_half_float, 
    GL_NV_primitive_restart, GL_NV_texgen_reflection, GL_NV_texture_barrier, 
    GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp, GL_SGIS_texture_lod, 
    GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays, GL_WIN_swap_hint, WGL_EXT_swap_control

65 GLX Visuals
    visual  x   bf lv rg d st  colorbuffer  sr ax dp st accumbuffer  ms  cav
  id dep cl sp  sz l  ci b ro  r  g  b  a F gb bf th cl  r  g  b  a ns b eat
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
0x023 24 tc  0  32  0 r  y .   8  8  8  8 .  .  0 24  8 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x024 24 tc  0  32  0 r  . .   8  8  8  8 .  .  0 24  8 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x025 24 tc  0  32  0 r  y .   8  8  8  8 .  .  0 24  0 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x026 24 tc  0  32  0 r  . .   8  8  8  8 .  .  0 24  0 16 16 16 16  0 0 None


[leigh@main-pc ~]$ rpm -qa *\catalyst\*
xorg-x11-drv-catalyst-legacy-libs-12.6-0.1.fc17.x86_64
xorg-x11-drv-catalyst-legacy-12.6-0.1.fc17.x86_64
kmod-catalyst-legacy-3.4.4-3.fc17.x86_64-12.6-0.1.fc17.x86_64
[leigh@main-pc ~]$
Review request at rpmfusion

https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2400
https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2401

Last edited by Yellowman; 6th July 2012 at 04:17 PM.
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Old 6th July 2012, 11:28 PM
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Re: Howto for fglrx / catalyst (Ati driver)

Any news of HD64xx line?

Nevermind, they work with them, or so my install tells me.

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Old 11th July 2012, 08:49 PM
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Re: Howto for fglrx / catalyst (Ati driver)

I'm getting an "unsupported Hardware" watermark for my HD6310 (AMD E-350 APU) with Catalyst 12.6 on F17 KDE... is this to be expected? - The AMD site linked in the guide says it should be compatible.
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Old 12th July 2012, 07:05 PM
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Re: Howto for fglrx / catalyst (Ati driver)

Hi,

I have been ordering parts for assembling a new computer and have these two parts on their way and have been wondering whether I should be exchanging them:

1) HD 7770 PCIe card
2) mobo with built-in HD 4250

The more I read on ATI Linux support and the recently released 12.6 drivers, the more confused I get. I had a few questions/clarifications and would be glad if anyone could help out.

1) Catalyst 12.6 seems to have dropped support for the integrated graphics chip that I mentioned - but then what is this?

Does this mean that the two graphics hardware I mentioned are supported (by support I mean 3D direct rendering) by two different drivers now? ( I did notice that the second link points to Beta drivers)

2) Can Fedora be set up (with the appropriate xorg.conf) to use these two different drivers for the 7770 and integrated 4250 simultaneously? Is Hybrid Crossfire supported? Or (if the mobo BIOS allows) can the cards be used as two independent entities (eg. 4250 for handling the display and 7770 as an OpenCL device for stuff like 3D rendering)?

3) I use rpmfusion. Do the fglrx packages have both these drivers?

4) I keep reading about legacy drivers for ATI. What are those?

I would really appreciate any light being cast on my darkness!

Thanks in advance
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Old 12th July 2012, 07:22 PM
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Re: Howto for fglrx / catalyst (Ati driver)

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Hi,

I have been ordering parts for assembling a new computer and have these two parts on their way and have been wondering whether I should be exchanging them:

1) HD 7770 PCIe card
2) mobo with built-in HD 4250

The more I read on ATI Linux support and the recently released 12.6 drivers, the more confused I get. I had a few questions/clarifications and would be glad if anyone could help out.

1) Catalyst 12.6 seems to have dropped support for the integrated graphics chip that I mentioned - but then what is this?

Does this mean that the two graphics hardware I mentioned are supported (by support I mean 3D direct rendering) by two different drivers now? ( I did notice that the second link points to Beta drivers)

2) Can Fedora be set up (with the appropriate xorg.conf) to use these two different drivers for the 7770 and integrated 4250 simultaneously? Is Hybrid Crossfire supported? Or (if the mobo BIOS allows) can the cards be used as two independent entities (eg. 4250 for handling the display and 7770 as an OpenCL device for stuff like 3D rendering)?

3) I use rpmfusion. Do the fglrx packages have both these drivers?

4) I keep reading about legacy drivers for ATI. What are those?

I would really appreciate any light being cast on my darkness!

Thanks in advance
Anurup
1. Yes
2. No
3. Not yet

Review request at rpmfusion

https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2400
https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2401

4. Learn to read your own links

http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles...yproducts.aspx
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Old 12th July 2012, 08:40 PM
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Re: Howto for fglrx / catalyst (Ati driver)

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1) depends; if you don't even need very good 3D performance, you don't even need a dedicated graphiccard. (also you can read through this thread: phoronix forum: Considering a new GPU soon. How's the 7700 series on Linux?)

2) if you going to use the dedicated graphic-card it doesn't matter which IGP card you have (on a notebook it would be matter, if you have the hardware which supports graphiccard switching on-the-fly);
Are you going to keep your old CPU with the motherboard? Or are you replacing the CPU as well?


the legacy driver Catalyst 12.6 is just for Radeon cards of 3xxx and 4xxx series. But for these older series, the default Radeon driver is also pretty decent. Although the 3D performance is only at maybe a third or at a half of the proprietary driver. The advantages of the default driver: it's very stable, is installed by default, supports every kernel and xorg-server version, it supports wayland (which comes maybe as option in F19 or F20 I guess).

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Old 13th July 2012, 05:48 AM
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Re: Howto for fglrx / catalyst (Ati driver)

Fenrin, Yellowman - thanks for your replies.

Fenrin, thanks for explaining what legacy drivers are. I have concluded that they are essentially drivers for those graphics cards that are not supported by the mainstream ATI Catalyst driver any more?

As for using the dedicated graphics card - I intend to use this machine for 3D modelling and rendering. So the 4250 is what I had intended to use to serve the display and OS UI for Gnome shell etc. The 7770 was intended to be an OpenCL device for 3D rendering.

To answer your question, I have ordered a new CPU (AMD FX-8150) for the machine.

Also thanks for the phoronix link - I am going to go through that in more detail.
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Old 14th July 2012, 12:26 PM
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Re: Howto for fglrx / catalyst (Ati driver)

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1) depends; if you don't even need very good 3D performance, you don't even need a dedicated graphiccard. (also you can read through this thread: phoronix forum: Considering a new GPU soon. How's the 7700 series on Linux?)

2) if you going to use the dedicated graphic-card it doesn't matter which IGP card you have (on a notebook it would be matter, if you have the hardware which supports graphiccard switching on-the-fly);
Are you going to keep your old CPU with the motherboard? Or are you replacing the CPU as well?


the legacy driver Catalyst 12.6 is just for Radeon cards of 3xxx and 4xxx series. But for these older series, the default Radeon driver is also pretty decent. Although the 3D performance is only at maybe a third or at a half of the proprietary driver. The advantages of the default driver: it's very stable, is installed by default, supports every kernel and xorg-server version, it supports wayland (which comes maybe as option in F19 or F20 I guess).
This is wrong, the legacy driver still supports the same cards as 12.4
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Old 15th July 2012, 09:26 PM
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Re: Howto for fglrx / catalyst (Ati driver)

I've followed these steps on my laptop and (I think) everyhting worked, but now my display brightness is permanently stuck at the lowest setting. I've tried the hardware brightness controls as well as the brightness setting in GNOME but niether has any effect.

I'm running Fedora 17 (64 bit) and my card is a Mobility Radeon HD 5850. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

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I'm getting an "unsupported Hardware" watermark for my HD6310 (AMD E-350 APU) with Catalyst 12.6 on F17 KDE... is this to be expected? - The AMD site linked in the guide says it should be compatible.
I'm getting the same message on my Acer Aspire One 722 (C50 processor, reports as Radeon HD 6250). However, I have also discovered that it does have problems. It will not suspend to RAM and resume. I only get a black screen.

I would like the increased performance of the proprietary driver, but not at the expense of stability and usability.
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Re: Howto for fglrx / catalyst (Ati driver)

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Yellowman, is there an update schedule for fglrx drivers at rpmfusion that I can subscribe to?

If you have the time and inclination, could you please explain why you answered "No" to Question 2 above - will the two drivers be trying to access the same memory locations or something to stay resident?

Also, would you have any idea if OpenCL is supported by 12.6 fglrx?

Thanks in advance.
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Yellowman, is there an update schedule for fglrx drivers at rpmfusion that I can subscribe to?

If you have the time and inclination, could you please explain why you answered "No" to Question 2 above - will the two drivers be trying to access the same memory locations or something to stay resident?

Also, would you have any idea if OpenCL is supported by 12.6 fglrx?

Thanks in advance.
You can't have two modules with the same name eg: fglrx

You might be able to use the legacy driver for both cards

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Re: Howto for fglrx / catalyst (Ati driver)

got a HD 7750. i can finally do 1080p on my HD screen, but i dual screen with a VGA (good old analog) display. With windows, display works correctly with 12.3 Catalyst, course AMD support <3 windows forever. but i get
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requested position/size for CRTC 148 is outside the allowed limit: position=(1920, 0), size=(1280, 1024), maximum=(1920, 1920)
every time i try to turn it on and up the display to 1280x1024. I assume its a setting somewhere i need to add to ensure that the drivers know that its two sepperate displays and not one ( granted it will be landscape but comeone it works in windows no issues!!)
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Old 23rd July 2012, 04:01 PM
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Re: Howto for fglrx / catalyst (Ati driver)

you need to set a larger VIRTUAL desktop size in xorg.conf, the default is 1920 x 1920

See here, virtual is set to 3200x3200:
Code:
Section "Screen"
        Identifier "Screen0"
        Device     "Videocard0"
        DefaultDepth     24
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Virtual   3200 3200
                Depth     24
        EndSubSection
EndSection
adapt your screen & device name accordingly.
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