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Old 15th May 2007, 09:40 PM
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Hello, my name is Gideon Mayhak.

Hello,

I decided this would be a good place for my very first post. With this first post, I'm going to attempt to summarize my Linux experience to date as clearly as possible. I'll start by saying I have been reading this forum from the beginning and it's been a huge help. I finally decided I should sign up and actually start posting, so here goes. While I have yet to have a question I couldn't find an answer for either here or Google, I hope to be able to help new people and maybe ask the occasional question as I get into more advanced things. I also look forward to posting screenshots in the gallery .

The Beginning
So, where to begin. I guess I'll go back a few years to when I first heard about Linux. I believe the two major distros at the time were Red Hat 8 and Mandrake 9 (I'm not 100% on the release numbers). I had gone so far as to download and burn the ISOs for Mandrake (I heard it was the easiest, and I was only in my early teens), but I didn't have a computer to put it on and I never got around to trying. Now, here we are a few years later. The hard drive in my main computer (see signature) was starting to make high-pitched noises and so my dad and I decided it was time to buy a replacement drive and do a fresh install of Windows (we'd been running the current install for over 3 years). As Spring Break was approaching, I figured that would be the perfect time to do it. I got a fresh copy of Windows XP Pro from my computers electronics teacher (through MSDN) and we ordered a new drive.

A week or two before Spring Break, my computer electronics teacher decided to have us try installing a copy of Red Hat 9 on one of our classroom servers, just to try it out. It's a pretty Windows-centric school, so even he didn't really know much about it. We installed it, and I made a couple observations: it was just as easy to install as Windows, it had a ton more software right there on the discs, it had a very nice interface (with lots of games ), and it was 100% free. After using it for a day or two in class, I decided to look into it more.

I discovered that Fedora was the official decendant of Red Hat (the distro I had always heard good things about) and decided that I would like to try that one. I attempted to try it in a virtual machine in Windows (Virtual Box), but I didn't have enough system RAM (512MB) to allocate enough to the virtual machine for the graphical installer, and I don't believe I got the text installer working for some reason or another. I found and installed a copy of Red Hat 9, but I didn't do much with it. I also tried a Ubuntu LiveCD, but trashed that with disgust (even this early on, I felt it was too watered down for my tastes). So anyway, I asked my dad if it would be alright with him (since it's technically his computer) to partition the hard drive and dual-boot when we went to reinstall over Spring Break. He said it would be okay, just so long as it didn't screw up Windows (I kept reassuring him over and over again that it wouldn't).

So anyway, I installed Windows XP Pro on a 105GB partition and then left the rest of the drive space sit for a couple days as I got WinXP reconfigured as we had it before. Then, after those couple days of restoring, I began installation of Fedora Core 6. I ended up reinstalling it a couple times for various reasons, reasons including trying to install every single package listed and finding the system didn't run too stable like that . Anyway, I settled on doing a default install and then slowly adding on as needed. I've now been running Fedora Core 6 for nearly two months and haven't really touched my Windows install much at all (it's pretty much just there for my dad at this point). I've used this forum to a great extent, as well as Google and other places, to get all the info I needed.

I haven't really tried any other distro, because Fedora has done everything I've wanted to do with exactly the kind of learning curve that suits me best. I wanted to learn, but I didn't want to be overwhelmed. From what I've read, it seems something like Slackware or even Debian might be just a bit too much, but something like Ubuntu is way too watered down (and the community just doesn't seem very helpful). Anyway, to avoid putting any distro down, I'll just say Fedora suits my needs perfectly and hasn't given me a reason to "play the field."

The Present
So yeah, the beginning was pretty much year-to-date, as I feel I really am just beginning. I consider myself to be above-average in terms of my ability to absorb new information, so I try not to look down on "newbs" asking questions that I answered for myself so quickly when I began. I'll do my best to be a "let me help you" kind of guy, rather than a "you stupid newb!" kinda guy. I'll remind myself that I, too, am technically a newb (or n00b, or noobie, or however you want to spell it).

My current goals include setting up the lesser of my recently purchased Vectra VL400s (see signature) as a fully-featured, text-only CentOS 5.0 server. So far, I've figured out how to WOL and SSH, so I'm at least to the point where I can remotely manage it from my main computers. I've been running Fedora Core 6 on everything, so the actual CentOS 5.0 learning is coming soon. I figured I wanted a stable, business-class, server-type distro for that box, and I figured CentOS would be the closest to Fedora (and I like to stick with what works). I'm going to configure the other Vectra with Fedora 7 when the final comes out (I've just got Core 6 on there at the moment for hardware testing and general playing around).

As for anything else, I guess I have a lot to say but I don't want to bore you if you don't want to know. I'm currently going to Mid-State Technical College for Computer Electronics (graduating this Thursday!) and I plan to go back next year to finish up the IT - Network Specialist program. I have a wonderful girlfriend who sometimes worries I love Linux more than her (which isn't true, but I have been obsessed with it the last couple months!). Ask me anything and I'm likely to answer with something. I've been heavily active on the Internet for 5+ years now and I've been part of several forums, so I'd like to think I'm well versed in etiquette.

I'm really looking forward to becoming an active part of this community, and I look forward to getting to know everyone better. I already feel like I know some of you simply from all the reading I've done here! I've been a very active lurker the past couple weeks, and I felt it was high time I started posting! I will add to this thread with a new post offering some of my observations of Linux and why I've decided it's the OS for me!

Thanks,

Gideon Mayhak
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Old 15th May 2007, 09:49 PM
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Cool, and great to here you made the effort to find answers.

These forums will get very busy in a few weeks when FC7 is released, they'll be no end of questions by people, so your help will certainly be appreciated by the admins.
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Old 15th May 2007, 09:58 PM
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Okay, so I couldn't wait to say a couple more things .

I started with MS-DOS 3.3 on a very old, dual-5.25" floppy computer, and slowly worked my way from that to Win3.1, Win95, and then a leap to WinXP (at home; I had used 98 and ME elsewhere). I've actually always been quite happy with Windows, especially XP. As I said before, we had an XP Home install running without problem for over 3 years. Sure, the occasional crash, but nothing deal-breaking. Whether it may surprise you or not, I wasn't really one of those "I've just gotta find an alternative to this Windows crap!" people. I was actually pleased with it. I merely wanted to give Linux a try, and I ended up loving it like my own child.

Before I say this next part, remember what I just said above. Vista scares the crap out of me. I didn't switch to Linux to avoid Vista, but I'm glad I switched when I did! Everything I've been reading about Vista is really very scary. All the DRM, the high system requirements, and everything else is a real turn-off. There's no way I could run Aero Glass on my old, on-board GeForce 4 MX, but Beryl runs beautifully.

Aah, Beryl. I originally figured I'd try it, not expecting it to run very smoothly, and then I'd just leave it installed but disabled. Well, was I wrong! It's great! It runs so smoothly, and it actually makes the computer more usable! Being able to rotate the cube with a simple scroll and flip between different tasks is so nice. I won't say Beryl is my only reason for wanting to stick with Linux, but it sure helped! It's such a great example of how much lighter Linux is on system resources. That and the fact I can actually allocate 256MB to a virtual machine in Virtual Box without it telling me I don't have enough! Oh, and the wobbly windows? It's gotten to the point where computers that don't have it seem unnatural :o. I feel weird when I can't shake my windows about at school and work .

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Cool, and great to here you made the effort to find answers.

These forums will get very busy in a few weeks when FC7 is released, they'll be no end of questions by people, so your help will certainly be appreciated by the admins.
I hope I can be helpful . I've been running Fedora 7 Test 4 just a little bit in Virtual Box, and it seems like I should be able to slip into it quickly.

I guess I would say this to people starting out: don't be afraid, and try not to be overwhelmed by search results. Take your time, read through, and try to avoid asking until you absolutely have to. That's why I hadn't even signed up 'til now: I kept saying to myself, "You don't really want to go through the hassle of signing up to ask a question you could probably answer with just one more day of reading, do you?" Hehe, I dunno. I tend to feel uncomfortable with people watching me learn. I only like people to watch once I have at least a basic grasp of things .
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Old 15th May 2007, 10:04 PM
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Hey Gideon, good to have you aboard. You are durn near as long winded as I am It is so nice to see someone you know is going to stick with it and to watch them grow. Just wait a couple months and you will be an old hand here! Only thing I have to argue with you about is dont turn off on any distro. I did the same thing with Ubuntu. I was a noob, I had used MEPIS, SuSE, RH8 and a handful others and I tried Ubuntu (a very early version) and just hated it. With a passion. Well, I settled in on FC4 and started to learn, much like yourself. I carried this Ubuntu hatred with me all the way till late last fall when Edgy was released. I tried it and it still didnt want to install. But by this time I knew all the tricks. A couple hours later it was running smoothly and you know, it was still Ubuntu but...it wasnt bad. Leigh123@linux in this forum turned me (and about 10 more of us ) onto debian etch and I simply love that distro. So with that debian experience under my belt I needed to upgrade my 6 year old son's computer from his locked down FC4 install. It is time to give him some slack, start teaching him. Well, i thought FC6 or 7 but didnt like that. I almost installed etch but last minute I read up on Christian Ubuntu. I am a Christian so that part doesnt offend me any and I liked the Dansgaurdian parental controls along with the fact that sudo is just right for his needs. They just released the Fiesty version and let me tell you what! I play on his computer more than mine these last couple weeks! This is one smooth distro. I am keeping etch and Fedora on my big rig but I know embrace Ubuntu along with all the other distros. It is all good!
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Old 15th May 2007, 10:16 PM
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Hey Gideon, good to have you aboard. You are durn near as long winded as I am It is so nice to see someone you know is going to stick with it and to watch them grow. Just wait a couple months and you will be an old hand here! Only thing I have to argue with you about is dont turn off on any distro. I did the same thing with Ubuntu. I was a noob, I had used MEPIS, SuSE, RH8 and a handful others and I tried Ubuntu (a very early version) and just hated it. With a passion. Well, I settled in on FC4 and started to learn, much like yourself. I carried this Ubuntu hatred with me all the way till late last fall when Edgy was released. I tried it and it still didnt want to install. But by this time I knew all the tricks. A couple hours later it was running smoothly and you know, it was still Ubuntu but...it wasnt bad. Leigh123@linux in this forum turned me (and about 10 more of us ) onto debian etch and I simply love that distro. So with that debian experience under my belt I needed to upgrade my 6 year old son's computer from his locked down FC4 install. It is time to give him some slack, start teaching him. Well, i thought FC6 or 7 but didnt like that. I almost installed etch but last minute I read up on Christian Ubuntu. I am a Christian so that part doesnt offend me any and I liked the Dansgaurdian parental controls along with the fact that sudo is just right for his needs. They just released the Fiesty version and let me tell you what! I play on his computer more than mine these last couple weeks! This is one smooth distro. I am keeping etch and Fedora on my big rig but I know embrace Ubuntu along with all the other distros. It is all good!
Aye, I've gotta remind myself I'm not old enough, nor have I been using Linux long enough, to be such a stuckup purist . I can see your reasoning for Christian Ubuntu; I figured I'd try to keep that in mind when I went to have kids (though that's far enough away that who knows what'll be around then ). I, too, am a Christian, so I was happy to see such a thing.

Anyway, thanks for the words of encouragement. You're one of those people I feel like I kinda already know . I've had a feeling I might end up trying Debian eventually, because it is so powerful, but, like I said before, I like to stick with what works and Fedora has been perfect so far. Maybe I'll try Debian on the next computer I get off of eBay . If I do, it's all your fault!
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Old 15th May 2007, 10:22 PM
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Welcome to the forum ,


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My current goals include setting up the lesser of my recently purchased Vectra VL400s (see signature) as a fully-featured, text-only CentOS 5.0 server. So far, I've figured out how to WOL and SSH, so I'm at least to the point where I can remotely manage it from my main computers. I've been running Fedora Core 6 on everything, so the actual CentOS 5.0 learning is coming soon. I figured I wanted a stable, business-class, server-type distro for that box, and I figured CentOS would be the closest to Fedora (and I like to stick with what works). I'm going to configure the other Vectra with Fedora 7 when the final comes out (I've just got Core 6 on there at the moment for hardware testing and general playing around).
CentOS 5 is just the same as Fedora to use ( so there wont be much to learn ).

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Old 15th May 2007, 10:26 PM
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Hi ,

Welcome to the forum ,




CentOS 5 is just the same as Fedora to use ( so there wont be much to learn ).

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Hehe, that's what I was hoping . The big challenge will be going text-only .
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Old 15th May 2007, 10:29 PM
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And thanks to the warm welcomes, sideways, JN4OldSchool, and leigh123@linux )^_^(.
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Old 15th May 2007, 11:26 PM
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Welcome aboard! You appear to have a bright future in the computing realm.
Fedora is the best and I've tested the rest!
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Old 16th May 2007, 01:37 AM
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Welcome aboard! You appear to have a bright future in the computing realm.
Fedora is the best and I've tested the rest!
And this is the best user forum I've seen . Everyone's friendly, even to people asking the same question over and over again. A perfect combination of patience and knowledge ^^. Thanks for the welcome, ryptyde.
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Everyone's friendly, even to people asking the same question over and over again.

Have you met Wayne yet ?

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Old 16th May 2007, 01:55 AM
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Have you met Wayne yet ?

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Haha! Okay, at least there are more friendly people than unfriendly .
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Oh and welcome Gideon to the er.... madhouse...... forum..... what's the difference!

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Welcome to the jungle!... Gideon, it sure is nice to see someone so into Fedora and linux in general. We all try to help each other here ...I pretty much learned everything I know in this forum...I am no linux guru, by any means, I depend on every member here(more than you might think )
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Old 16th May 2007, 01:59 AM
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