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Old 10th March 2007, 05:45 AM
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Starcraft performance, poor?

Hello all Fedora Gamers out there!

So I decided to pop back into a little Starcraft action after soooo long, and enjoy the game again (SP, as I've never been too good on BNet ).

Anyway, the last time I played Starcraft on Linux there was still the problem of Wine and DGA acceleration and all those endless problems. Ever since Wine integrated all 2D acceleration to their GL backend, it supposedly made a lot of 2D stuff much faster, however I still notice quite a bit of lag in the game. I'm not sure it is my setup or what, but it certainly souldn't run like this.

Anyone else has experienced this?

What I've been experiencing is:
  • Sudden slowdowns, especially when lot of things are on the screen (i.e like in a crouded battle).
  • Slowdowns when changing from an area to another in the Minimap (not necessarily a crouded area).
  • Jumpy mouse, and some times laggy mouse.
  • Pan slowdowns (even through black areas).
These are the things I've seen so far while playing through some random SP missions, anyone can confirm?

All this is despite my machine is compatible with the OpenGL backend (nvidia), which is supposed to accelerate these... Also I'm runngin using the ALSA driver fully accelerated, I'll try to see if this might have something to do (there are few DSound messages in the terminal), also there seems to be some problems with D3D (something about the memory)
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Old 10th March 2007, 10:23 AM
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Wow this is funny, I just recently loaded up Starcraft for some "old time" fun. I figure, hey ill try it in wine, I had exactly the same problem. Horrible performance (choppy, laggy, some graphics not appearing right (minor) ). Ive been booting back into windows to play (which plays flawless). For some reason I've been having an urge to play SC lately. If you figure something out, let me know! I would much rather not have to boot into windows, ugh...

I did some googling, and it seems a lot of people do play SC with wine and have no issues, though these are other linux based oses.. im sure there is some way to get good performance with some tinkering... wish I could figure it out.
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Old 10th March 2007, 04:14 PM
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I'll try to install wine from source and see if a "kosher" wine has the problem. It'll take me a while, though, as I have a busy day ahead of me today.
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Old 10th March 2007, 05:05 PM
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I have played Starcraft on Kubuntu (Feisty) on a 1.5 GHz Pentium-M, as well as on Fedora 6 on an XP 3000+ 64-bit, both running wine 0.9.32, and I have not had these issues in Starcraft.

However, apparently the change from 0.9.15 to .16 (which I think is where the 2D->GL stuff happened), broke Red Alert 2. Not completely broke, but makes it lag very badly even on single player mode, jerky mouse, flickering cursor, etc. I see these problems in RA2 on both my computers.

Starcraft is so old that just getting a faster cpu might allow you to overpower wine bugs?
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Old 10th March 2007, 10:26 PM
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Yeah, you can "play" both single and on-line multiplayer, buts it is really not realistic at all (especially online) since you end up lagging the whole game.
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Starcraft is so old that just getting a faster cpu might allow you to overpower wine bugs?
You saying an A64 on 64-bit Linux is not enough? For STARCRAFT? The problem is with the code in Wine (or a configuration of wine itself), which is what I'm trying to rule out.
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Old 21st March 2007, 07:38 PM
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i heard you can use vmware...
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Old 21st March 2007, 07:50 PM
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Yeah, I have been playing it in VMWare without issues. Still performs a tab better actually booting into windows, but nothing to crazy different.

I would rather, play in wine though honestly. I know its possible, I've read reports of people playing it in wine flawlessly.
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ive been wanting to play wc3 frozen throne - DOTA ALL STARS in linux and DoD source
but hell im still working on ndiswrapper with usb wireless stick to work
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Old 21st March 2007, 08:15 PM
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i heard you can use vmware...
Yeah it would , save I don't own any Windows license anymore
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