Pirut... maybe a little too slow??

[spamllama2000]

Hello all -

I know Pirut is famous for being a little slower than Synaptic as a front end, that Yum is slower than apt, etc. I'm not trying to restart the debate or flame war over them... I'm really looking for help.

The slight slowness in Pirut never really used to bother me... I love that it just works!

However, as of late... its gotten MUCH, MUCH slower. Like right now, I'm working on installing 8 updates... for the last hour and a half. The window doesn't refresh, even things like cleanups take a long time.

This happens when installing RPM packages as well. I don't get any kind of specific error or anything like that... but when running Pirut, my Athlon 1800 feels like a 386!

What I'm wondering if this is just a progressive problem the more packages you have on your system, and if this is why people complain so much about Pirut, or if I really have a problem and this is unusually slow.

Thanks,
Derrick

[JN4OldSchool]

I think it is the limited servers/maybe bad servers...I have yum problems off and on myself and have found that if you wait an hour or two and try again it usually works fine. I agree with you though, i use yumex and something is extremely flakey and it seems to be getting worse. You can use apt-get rpm you know? I have never tried this or any other package managers, I just grin and bare it with yum...

edit: For instance...I fire yumex up around 6PM my time. It wont load, cant get a mirror. I refresh 5 or so times and say piss on this. I try again around 7:30. It loads right up and I have some updates. Cool. So I go to process them and I get two dep errors...AGAIN ...OK, so lets play battleship and try to eliminate all the packages causing the two errors. Finally...finally I get this all sorted and am fully updated except for Firefox yelp and epiphany or something in the browser field. So I guess I come back tomorrow and the thing holding these packages back will be fixed...again...so I just try fireing up yumex again just a minute ago at 8:15 or so. Same damn story, cant get on the server. I refresh about five times before finally giving up. Tomorrow morning it will load right up and fly through the next update...

Yeah, we now have over a million Fedora users. These are working users, not just downloads. I just think the infrastructure is being heavily strained. They need to set up more servers, more mirrors...

[spamllama2000]

OK... so its probably the servers being overloaded then. Its kind of funny. I'm in Colorado, so with the time change, we were trying to get on and do the same updates at the same time with your examples today.

I haven't tried using apt-get with rpm... however have used Synaptic as a front end. Haven't tried Yumex. I have to admit, I do like Synaptic, it seems like the software itself runs a little faster than Pirut... although I've noticed it seems like Pirut runs faster under KDE than it does under Gnome.... at least on my machine.

So... I guess the question is now... How do we get the good, kind folks at Red Hat to up the mirrors or infrastructure... I wonder what they run the servers on! (Hardware-wise)

Thanks again for the insight. I was worried it was just me!

Derrick