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Old 25th January 2007, 03:38 AM
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Having ATI Driver Problems

I'm using a Dell inspiron 1501 intalled with FC6 Kernel -2.6.18-1.2849.fc6.i686

I can't get the 3d hardware accelration to work. I'm very new to linux. so i'll try to explain what i did.

i downloaded from ati.amd.com website the laest drivers for linux 32 bit
i do belive the file is ati-installer-8.32.5-x86.x86_64 it was the only one listed for my radeon 1150 (express 200)

did exaclty as the intall instructions said to do and even built the package for fedora core 6 as it told.
3d stuff is horrible and when i run glxinfo | grep direct this is my output

direct rendering : NO
openGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect

which i've read means that the hardware 3D rendering is not on.

I was told this would fix the problem

How to install ATi drivers

Again, your Yum must be configured with the Livna repository, as it's one of the few repositories that provide video driver RPMs especially designed for Fedora Core. To install the ATi drivers’ package, type this command as root:

# yum install xorg-x11-drv-fglrx kmod-fglrx glx-utils

This installs the ATi driver and kernel module.

My question is when i do it conflicks with the already installed ati drivers how do I uninstall them????

Any help would be nice.

Thanks in advance,
Joseph Swager
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Old 25th January 2007, 08:18 AM
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Hard problem because you don't know what the amd program did. May be you can invoke the program with -h or --help to show options and may be there are a flag to uninstall.

If no luck, you can try to install with yum the 3 packages and if you have some conflicts, you can uninstall again.

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Old 25th January 2007, 08:49 AM
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It may just be a matter of configuring your xorg.conf file to get direct rendering, ATI drivers do work for many people. Anyway livna's drivers work just as well so if you want to try them first have a look at this post
http://fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=127305

To remove your ati drivers you need to type this

Code:
su -
rpm -e ATI-fglrx-8.32.5-1.fc6.i386 ATI-fglrx-control-panel-8.32.5-1.fc6.i386 ATI-fglrx-devel-8.32.5-1.fc6.i386
rpm -e kernel-module-ATI-fglrx-2.6.18-1.2869.fc6.8.32.5-1.fc6.i386
Now also, the libGL.so library needs to be reset since ATI's installation overwrites it so download mesa-libGL-6.5.1-8.fc6.i386.rpm (eg from http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat....i386.rpm.html)
and force a reinstall

Code:
rpm -ihv --force mesa-libGL-6.5.1-8.fc6.i386.rpm
Then you should be set to install the livna radeon drivers
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Old 27th January 2007, 08:48 PM
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ok i get the ATI drivers uninstalled and go to install the livna drivers and here is what i message i get


[root@localhost ~]# yum install xorg-x11-drv-fglrx
Loading "installonlyn" plugin
Setting up Install Process
Setting up repositories
Reading repository metadata in from local files
Parsing package install arguments
Resolving Dependencies
--> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait.
---> Package xorg-x11-drv-fglrx.i386 0:8.33.6-1.lvn6 set to be updated
--> Running transaction check
--> Processing Dependency: fglrx-kmod >= 8.33.6 for package: xorg-x11-drv-fglrx
--> Restarting Dependency Resolution with new changes.
--> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait.
---> Package kmod-fglrx.i686 0:8.33.6-1.2.6.19_1.2895.fc6 set to be updated
--> Running transaction check
--> Processing Dependency: kernel-i686 = 2.6.19-1.2895.fc6 for package: kmod-fglrx
--> Restarting Dependency Resolution with new changes.
--> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait.
---> Package kernel.i686 0:2.6.19-1.2895.fc6 set to be installed
--> Running transaction check

Dependencies Resolved

================================================== ===========================
Package Arch Version Repository Size
================================================== ===========================
Installing:
xorg-x11-drv-fglrx i386 8.33.6-1.lvn6 livna 9.0 M
Installing for dependencies:
kernel i686 2.6.19-1.2895.fc6 updates 16 M
kmod-fglrx i686 8.33.6-1.2.6.19_1.2895.fc6 livna 242 k

Transaction Summary
================================================== ===========================
Install 3 Package(s)
Update 0 Package(s)
Remove 0 Package(s)

Total download size: 26 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
Running Transaction Test
Finished Transaction Test


Transaction Check Error: package kernel-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6 is already installed
file /boot/System.map-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6 from install of kernel-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6 conflicts with file from package kernel-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6
file /boot/config-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6 from install of kernel-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6 conflicts with file from package kernel-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6
file /boot/symvers-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6.gz from install of kernel-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6 conflicts with file from package kernel-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6
file /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6 from install of kernel-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6 conflicts with file from package kernel-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6
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Old 27th January 2007, 08:53 PM
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this is also the error I now recieve when checking for direct rendering

[root@localhost ~]# glxinfo | grep direct
Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
direct rendering: No
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
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Old 27th January 2007, 09:00 PM
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Now also, the libGL.so library needs to be reset since ATI's installation overwrites it
Hi sideways,

How did you come to this conclusion? My experience is that the ATI installs dump their
copy of libGL.so into /usr/lib/fglrx (or /usr/lib/ati-fglrx if you use the livna stuff). The
binding to this library is handled by updating /etc/ld.so.conf.d/.
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Old 27th January 2007, 09:20 PM
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ok i get the ATI drivers uninstalled and go to install the livna drivers and here is what i message i get


[root@localhost ~]# yum install xorg-x11-drv-fglrx
Loading "installonlyn" plugin
Setting up Install Process
Setting up repositories
Reading repository metadata in from local files
Parsing package install arguments
Resolving Dependencies
--> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait.
---> Package xorg-x11-drv-fglrx.i386 0:8.33.6-1.lvn6 set to be updated
--> Running transaction check
--> Processing Dependency: fglrx-kmod >= 8.33.6 for package: xorg-x11-drv-fglrx
--> Restarting Dependency Resolution with new changes.
--> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait.
---> Package kmod-fglrx.i686 0:8.33.6-1.2.6.19_1.2895.fc6 set to be updated
--> Running transaction check
--> Processing Dependency: kernel-i686 = 2.6.19-1.2895.fc6 for package: kmod-fglrx
--> Restarting Dependency Resolution with new changes.
--> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait.
---> Package kernel.i686 0:2.6.19-1.2895.fc6 set to be installed
--> Running transaction check

Dependencies Resolved

================================================== ===========================
Package Arch Version Repository Size
================================================== ===========================
Installing:
xorg-x11-drv-fglrx i386 8.33.6-1.lvn6 livna 9.0 M
Installing for dependencies:
kernel i686 2.6.19-1.2895.fc6 updates 16 M
kmod-fglrx i686 8.33.6-1.2.6.19_1.2895.fc6 livna 242 k

Transaction Summary
================================================== ===========================
Install 3 Package(s)
Update 0 Package(s)
Remove 0 Package(s)

Total download size: 26 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
Running Transaction Test
Finished Transaction Test


Transaction Check Error: package kernel-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6 is already installed
file /boot/System.map-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6 from install of kernel-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6 conflicts with file from package kernel-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6
file /boot/config-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6 from install of kernel-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6 conflicts with file from package kernel-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6
file /boot/symvers-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6.gz from install of kernel-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6 conflicts with file from package kernel-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6
file /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6 from install of kernel-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6 conflicts with file from package kernel-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6
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I'm using a Dell inspiron 1501 intalled with FC6 Kernel -2.6.18-1.2849.fc6.i686
no you dont you have a i586 kernel

you need a i686 kernel for the ati driver to work

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=139751
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Old 27th January 2007, 10:47 PM
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Hi sideways,

How did you come to this conclusion? My experience is that the ATI installs dump their
copy of libGL.so into /usr/lib/fglrx (or /usr/lib/ati-fglrx if you use the livna stuff). The
binding to this library is handled by updating /etc/ld.so.conf.d/.
Hmm, I routinely reinstall the mesa-libGL library (currently mesa-libGL-6.5.1-8.fc6) after uninstalling ATI drivers, otherwise I have problems with libGl, but perhaps the rpm reinstall just resets something else rather than restoring the original libGl.so. Next time I'll check libGL before and after an ATI install and see if anything changes.

Your post seems to explain it well , I guess the ATI uninstall doesn't reset libGl correctly for the dynamic linker.
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Old 27th January 2007, 11:33 PM
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Hmm, I routinely reinstall the mesa-libGL library (currently mesa-libGL-6.5.1-8.fc6) after uninstalling ATI drivers, otherwise I have problems with libGl, but perhaps the rpm reinstall just resets something else rather than restoring the original libGl.so. Next time I'll check libGL before and after an ATI install and see if anything changes.

Your post seems to explain it well , I guess the ATI uninstall doesn't reset libGl correctly for the dynamic linker.
When I did this the entry in /etc/ld.so.conf.d was removed. Perhaps "ldconfig" was not rerun.
Next time you do this (if you do) try to run "ldconfig" (and check /etc/ld.so.conf.d to make sure
the fglrx entries are not there).
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Ok, I'll try that mwette, thanks for an informative post
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Old 29th January 2007, 07:19 PM
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Ok I now have for sure the i686 kernel installed.

[root@localhost ~]# uname -a
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.19-1.2895.fc6 #1 SMP Wed Jan 10 19:28:18 EST 2007 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux

the driver installation of # yum install xorg-x11-drv-fglrx kmod-fglrx glx-utils showes no errors
here is proof that it is installed
[root@localhost ~]# rpm -qa xorg-x11-drv-fglrx
xorg-x11-drv-fglrx-8.33.6-1.lvn6

still when i run this [root@localhost ~]# glxinfo | grep direct
direct rendering: No
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect

i still have no hardware rendering turned on

I'm thinking it has something to with my xorg.conf file
here is the format of this file.

EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Synaptics"
Driver "synaptics"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Videocard0"
Driver "radeon"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Videocard0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "Disable"
EndSection


Maybe someone can figure out what i'm doing wrong. everything else on my laptop works perfect even DVD playbak.
Please also try to remeber I'm very new to Linux. This is my first exposure.
Thank You again for your continued help.

Joe
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Old 29th January 2007, 08:52 PM
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Ok I now have for sure the i686 kernel installed.

[root@localhost ~]# uname -a
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.19-1.2895.fc6 #1 SMP Wed Jan 10 19:28:18 EST 2007 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux

the driver installation of # yum install xorg-x11-drv-fglrx kmod-fglrx glx-utils showes no errors
here is proof that it is installed
[root@localhost ~]# rpm -qa xorg-x11-drv-fglrx
xorg-x11-drv-fglrx-8.33.6-1.lvn6

still when i run this [root@localhost ~]# glxinfo | grep direct
direct rendering: No
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect

i still have no hardware rendering turned on

I'm thinking it has something to with my xorg.conf file
here is the format of this file.

EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Synaptics"
Driver "synaptics"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Videocard0"
Driver "radeon" ##should be "fglrx"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Videocard0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "Disable"
EndSection


Maybe someone can figure out what i'm doing wrong. everything else on my laptop works perfect even DVD playbak.
Please also try to remeber I'm very new to Linux. This is my first exposure.
Thank You again for your continued help.

Joe
uname -a doesn't work use

rpm -qa --queryformat "%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH}\n"|grep kernel|sort
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Old 30th January 2007, 01:32 AM
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here is my output i seems to indicate that the i686 is installed
[root@localhost ~]# rpm -qa --queryformat "%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH}\n"|grep kernel|sort
kernel-2.6.18-1.2798.fc6.i686
kernel-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6.i686
kernel-devel-2.6.18-1.2798.fc6.i686
kernel-devel-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6.i686
kernel-headers-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6.i386
kernel-kdump-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6.i686
kernel-PAE-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6.i686

leigh123 I'll try the minor edit of the xorg.conf fill as indecated to see if this fixs the problem thanks again for your help
hopefully I'll fix this before I pull my hair back and want to go back to Windows LOL nah just kidding but their is so much to learn.

joe
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here is my output i seems to indicate that the i686 is installed
[root@localhost ~]# rpm -qa --queryformat "%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH}\n"|grep kernel|sort
kernel-2.6.18-1.2798.fc6.i686
kernel-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6.i686
kernel-devel-2.6.18-1.2798.fc6.i686
kernel-devel-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6.i686
kernel-headers-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6.i386
kernel-kdump-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6.i686
kernel-PAE-2.6.19-1.2895.fc6.i686

leigh123 I'll try the minor edit of the xorg.conf fill as indecated to see if this fixs the problem thanks again for your help
hopefully I'll fix this before I pull my hair back and want to go back to Windows LOL nah just kidding but their is so much to learn.

joe
The edit "fglrx" is the name of the 3D ati driver
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The edit "fglrx" is the name of the 3D ati driver
did that restarted the x server ran this again
[root@localhost ~]# glxinfo | grep direct
direct rendering: No
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirectat
no hardware accel yet still the stupid mesa driver
I feel that I may be doomed forever
Is there any other config file i could change in order to force 3D hardware acceleration?????

even tried this

However, if you have an AMD64 processor, you will need to add iommu=off to the kernel line in your /etc/grub.conf file, like this:

kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.18-1.2798.fc6 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet iommu=off

still no luck

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