Hearts

pscowboy · #1 26th December 2006, 05:41 PM

Trying to get Hearts installed on FC-6 using gnome desktop. I'm only into FC-6 for a couple of days.

Downloaded the 0.1.3 tar - extracted it.

The Readme says to bootstrap the package first with no explanation on how to do that.

It's been very frustrating for me with "zero" linux-anything background. I can kill anything in MS Windows problem-wise, but it seems that one has to be a Linux programmer to get anything done, and spend countless minutes keystroking.

Took me three hours to figure out a plug-in for Mozilla; Tried for three hours to get Totem-xine to play a wmv file, still to no avail. Been trying for two hours just to research on bootstrapping a package BEFORE I can install it, which is another lesson in hundreds of keystrokes.

I am terrified that one of my customers is going to ask for a Linux server (some flavor) (I'm trying to just break ground with Ubuntu, Suse, and Fedora) - and Paul is going to look like an idiot.

In Windows, you double-click a download - say OK - and it's done.

These Linux O/S's seem robust enough and very secure - and you're not going away. You're getting more market share every week. MS took notice, and is involved with Suse I believe, so the future is set.

This above-average Windows techie is completely humbled inside of the Linux community. It's like banging one's head against the wall to get anything done. My feeling is, if you guys want to bring millions and millions of middle-of-the-road Windows junkies in, things have to be a lot easier.

Now that I've vented my ass off, can I get this card game off the ground?

***bob*** · #2 26th December 2006, 06:07 PM

Well, here's how I just got hearts installed:

1). Went here: http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat....html#requires and downloaded the rpm

2). Opened a terminal and signed in as root (su -)

3). cd (changed directory) to where I'd downloaded it to - 'cd /home/bob'

4). installed using 'rpm' "rpm -Uvh *.rpm" . In my case, there was only the one rpm file there, so the * worked properly. If you had more than one rpm there, you'd have to spell out the total name.

5). exited root and launched by typing "hearts" Edit: It also appears in Games in a folder named 'Card'.

***bob*** · #3 26th December 2006, 06:23 PM

Oh, and perhaps you might want to read up on some things before banging your head against the wall some more. First, there are thousands of packages already set up to be installed for your system. The main way is to use yum. For a new user, I'd also recommend you using yumex to get a graphical interface. 'yum install yumex' will do that for you. Here's a tutorial on yum: http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/yum/en/ and you can also get more information by opening a terminal and typing "man yum" for the yum manual.

There's a ton of stuff out there but you have to understand that there are quite a few versions of linux since it's open source and many forks of development have occurred. Therefore, you might find that something you want is only available for a different version of linux. That site I pointed you to has rpm's that should make the search easier - at least they're all 'red hat package' versions but dependency issues may still make it problematic. 'Yum localinstall' will at least give you the dependency issues and what needs to be installed besides the one program to make it all work. By default, yum wants to have a key on hand to verify every program that's installed (security measure). You can bypass that by temporarily disabling the 'gpg check' or, as I did, by using rpm instead. Of course the preferred way would be to find that gpg key and install that.

So, there's a lot to learn - true! When you started out using Windows, there was a lot to learn but you're well past that; this is just a completely different type of OS - there would also be tons to learn if you picked up a Mac.

Here's some tutorials that might help:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAQ#he...557e8a0ea3fd98
http://easylinux.info/wiki/Fedora_fc5
http://easylinux.info/wiki/Fedora_frog
http://jimlawrnc.mine.nu/mywiki/Home
http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-fc6.html

pscowboy · #4 26th December 2006, 10:15 PM

I got the Hearts installed; but it doesn't reference properly. Names & positions don't jive with the score resume'.

Many thanks, Bob, for the nudge & the tutorials listings. I promise that I will pore over them (and others).

It behooves me to become, at least, fundamentally accomplished with this stuff. I oversee a lot of office comps, and the day will come when some brand of Linux will really step up to become a major player in the mainstream. I'd better be ready.