Fedora Core 6 on Virtual PC (DVD iso) CD Not Found!

BioALIEN · #1 2006-10-30, 12:13 PM CST

Having spent days downloading FC6 i386 DVD iso, and having successfully burnt the iso and verified it, I tried to install on MS Virtual PC 2004.

The dvd boots perfect, and I proceed with the language and keyboard selection until presented with:

Quote:

INSTALLATION METHOD: What type of media contains the installation method?

I chose CD ROM since thats the closest thing to resemble my DVD drive, but to my surprise the installation kept asking that the "CD Not Found" and "Please insert installation CD".

I tried the text version and the graphical interface with no luck.

I am so disappointed in FC6 having spent days downloading the DVD iso. I had no such problems with FC5.

Any help? Before I go and make the switch to Ubuntu for the first time?

dodd · #2 2006-10-30, 01:13 PM CST

Virtual PC 2004 is bit outdated now. I would recommend you trying VMware Server ( http://www.vmware.com/products/server/ ). Its free just like Virtual PC.

dscherf · #3 2006-10-30, 02:40 PM CST

Hi, I am using Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 Beta and it gives this exact same error message. (I am hosting on and guesting with Vista so please just leave me be on the choice.)

You can get around it by capturing an ISO file in place of the actual CD. Download the first ISO or two for CD installs and then select this as the source.

This is now the fourth or fifth annoyance I have with this particular version of Fedora...

BioALIEN · #4 2006-10-30, 02:46 PM CST

Hi dscherf,

Thanks for your input. This was the next thing I was preparing to do before finally hanging the helmet and leave Fedora. I tried capturing the DVD ISO but no luck there.

Can you confirm that by downloading the first 2 ISO and using these as the source in VPC worked for you?

dscherf · #5 2006-10-30, 02:48 PM CST

Yes, I meant to say use the CD-ROM ISOs. I haven't tried to use the DVD ISO. (I don't know why the ISO would work any better than the physical DVD...).

My install is currently on Disc 3. I'll know in a few minutes whether or not this release will even work on VPC. =D

BioALIEN · #6 2006-10-30, 02:50 PM CST

Excellent, I hope it works for you

Btw, what's the reason that made you go for VPC 2007 if you dont mind me asking? Any cool features or performance advantages?

dscherf · #7 2006-10-30, 03:04 PM CST

Heh, kinda long story short:

I work for a major computer book publisher and I produce the CD/DVD media we do here. One of my tasks is to install all the software that goes on the media. I'm doing a list of all the packages that are in Fedora Core 6, which led me to the following issues:

1) Yum, in its default configuration, will not work without an active network connection. Since I sandbox my installs (i.e. install on a computer with no network access), I couldn't launch the Add/Remove Software program because it wanted a remote repository instead of local. Instead of changing my repository, I simply hooked the computer up to the network. (Strike one on usability.)

2) Once I hooked the machine up to the internet, I was finally able to install Xen. Hearing about how much better Fedora Core 6 managed Xen, I decided to give it a whirl. However, one of the reasons why I would want to run Xen on FC6 is to run Windows (since it's one of three platforms that I produce media for). Since I don't want to go through the whole process of creating a NFS export, FTP server process, or HTTP process, Xen isn't a usable alternative for people who are not allowed to run server services within a corporate network. In other words, the lack of being able to install direct from a filesystem, removable or otherwise, is a rather big barrier of entry.

3) Since Xen was out, I downloaded VMWare Server for Linux. Because of the header file issue, already reported elsewhere, VMWare simply won't install on FC6 without me having to go around and fix it. Thus, VMWare on FC6 is not a viable option unless I want to fix FC6. I don't have this amount of time on my hands (and the web-based information where I learned how to supposedly fix it does not work when I try it).

4) Since I am a beta tester for Vista (practically anyone could be with RC1), I installed that on my machine. Since I found out that Virtual PC 2007 was in beta I simply applied to be a tester. It appears anyone can be, since they let me. =D

5) I am downloading VMWare to install as well, but I don't know how well it will work on Vista. VPC 2007 was touted as being able to both host and guest Vista, and since I need at least one testing station with Vista, that seemed like the easiest choice.

A longer answer than you wanted, but a lot of this would be unnecessary if FC6 worked out of the box, so to speak...

BioALIEN · #8 2006-10-30, 03:46 PM CST

It seems others are finding the same problem with Fedora:
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/forum/...d.php?t=133772
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/forum/...ad.php?t=85856
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/forum/...ad.php?t=72289
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/forum/...ead.php?t=3063

Very frustrating indeed. Now i have to spend days downloading the 5 CD iso versions! I might apply for the Vista beta too dscherf, maybe it will be more stable than Fedora at this stage?

dscherf · #9 2006-10-31, 07:34 AM CST

Hi,

Vista has its own problems so far. It's a nice OS, certainly better than any preceding Microsoft OS out there in my opinion, but it's not my OS of choice, which would be OS X (and, before the flames start, it has its own problems, too). Each OS has its place and use, strengths and weaknesses. No OS is perfect for everyone, nor should one be.

With a little bit more polish, I think FC6 would be a great release. Right now, there are just too many post-installation issues for me to put it in the "it just works" category.

dscherf · #10 2006-10-31, 03:59 PM CST

Fedora Core 6 did install correctly when I used the Capture Disc function on the Fedora Core 6 CD-ROM ISOs. Because it didn't know anything about the graphics adapter (which is why I did a text-based install in the first place) I am at a text login. Which is fine. One day I'll figure out how to get X configured in VPC but I don't have time for it now.

I did download and install VMWare Server, as suggested by someone else. Okay, two thoughts: VMWare Server on Windows requires IIS for some management functions. Kind of disturbing... Secondly, Fedora Core 6's installation manager (in all its graphically goodness) does not recognize the VMWare drive and thus cannot partition nor use anything within VMWare.

BioALIEN · #11 2006-11-01, 09:11 AM CST

Thanks for the update, it gives me hope

Im half way downloading the Fedora Core 6 CD-ROM ISOs.

dscherf · #12 2006-11-02, 01:09 PM CST

In VMWare, when you set up for a new Virtual Machine, if you select Other Linux 2.6 Kernel, it will correctly allow a Fedora Core 6 install. If you choose Red Hat Linux, the created disc is not discoverable with the installation routine of FC6.

So, I now have a full FC6 install running on VMWare Server...

SaGS · #13 2006-11-03, 06:57 AM CST

This link may also be of interest:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/908452/en-us
section 1.3.3 "Setup fails when installing from a mounted drive in a Virtual PC environment"

Even if it's about VS2005, the problem it explains is about Virtual PC 2004 and large ISOs.

dscherf · #14 2006-11-03, 10:05 AM CST

Thanks for finding that! Since I am using VPC 2007 Beta, I decided to test this further.

To test, I just installed Vista as a guest OS. The install went perfectly. The Vista DVD is about 3 GB or so in size.

BioALIEN · #15 2006-11-04, 07:38 PM CST

I've updated VPC to 2007 beta and now I can take advantage of loading large ISOs directly into VPC. I can confirm that the DVD ISO is now readable and I am on my way installing Fedora 6

I just like to say, since my first post here, I have gone on a craze of installing UBUNTU, PCBSD and CENTOS all on VPC. Of them all, Ubuntu was very straight forward to tweak and get the whole installation working. It's also the fastest Open Source OS under VPC (so far). PCBSD somehow manages to bypass VPC's 16bit restriction and loads up nicely too but it runs VERY slow. Unfortunately, I never managed to get Centos booting up into the graphical window. I managed to install perfectly, I can get it to boot into single user mode but no graphical windows at all.

I'll keep you updated on my Fedora status for now...