How will an Open Source Java effect linux?

KClaisse · #1 27th October 2006, 08:40 AM

I don't know if anyone has read about this yet, probably everyone who reads slashdot though.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/infoworld/20...nfoworld/83138

It seems as if Sun is going to open up Java to the Open Source community. I just wish Adobe would follow suit.

stevea · #2 27th October 2006, 09:38 AM

Actually Adobe is pretty good wrt PDF
http://partners.adobe.com/public/dev...l_notices.html

KClaisse · #3 27th October 2006, 10:10 AM

I meant flash in particular. I mean Since the release of flash player 7, 2 major stable flash updates for Mac and Windows have been released, while linux is still way back way 7. If anyone deserves the source it's us!

clearer · #4 27th October 2006, 10:25 AM

flash 9 has been released, but only for i386 -- which is useless, since a lot of people use arm, ppc or x86_64. GNASH springs to partial aid though.

rappermas · #5 27th October 2006, 05:44 PM

Well, opening up Java would certainly help the community get GCJ built up all the way to completion.

It's only a matter of time before Adobe feels the pressure and opens up flash. The first step is always the important one, which is why it's so cool that Sun is opening up Java, never mind that it opened its version of UNIX, Solaris, earlier.

If people start using Java over Flash because it's open and free, then Adobe will have to open it to compete.

kona0197 · #6 27th October 2006, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by clearer

flash 9 has been released, but only for i386 -- which is useless, since a lot of people use arm, ppc or x86_64. GNASH springs to partial aid though.

I was under the impression that most of us use i386 machines.

KClaisse · #7 28th October 2006, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by kona0197

I was under the impression that most of us use i386 machines.

The only reason I use i386 over 64bit is mainly because of flash. I use is so much that without it I would be in deep trouble. There are other programs and modules that don't fully support x86_64 but none as prominent as Flash, and I think there are plenty of i386 users out there who would agree. I mean, why not sue the extra 32bits if we could? Why not stress out technology to it's fullest? I wish Adobe would ask themselves this. But I do foresee a 64bit Flash in the near future, and for it's release we can thank Microsoft. You just know that MS is going to pressure Adobe to support it's 64bit version of Vista, but whether or not that will push Adobe in our direction remains to be seen. I hope it does.

#8 28th October 2006, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by clearer

flash 9 has been released, but only for i386 -- which is useless, since a lot of people use arm, ppc or x86_64. GNASH springs to partial aid though.

To be clear, a BETA of Flash 9 has been released. It's not due to go gold till early next year.

Cheers

Wayne

iamroot · #9 28th October 2006, 05:25 AM

Hmm. Adobe isn't exactly pro-FOSS. I wonder how Java will be "open-sourced", what license will it use...

rappermas · #10 28th October 2006, 05:51 AM

It doesn't matter what license java will use. The important thing is that it will be open sourced. This, like I have been saying, will definitely put pressure back onto Adobe for flash.

You see, Java and Flash are the two biggest competitors for web content, with Java getting beaten and beaten. Hopefully, the opening of Java will help the community make it faster and even more applicable to the web.

Now, since Java then becomes free, Adobe is left with a dilemna. It will HAVE to open flash or lose flash's viability and regret that it ever bought Macromedia in the first place. Let's face it, the only reason that Adobe bought Macromedia is because of Flash. Flash is an amazing technology that will have to be opened to compete with Java.