Speedtouch Alcatel ADSL modem !!!

[rdus77]

Hi,

I'm french and in europe we are a lot of people use the Alcatel speedtouch adsl modem !
With my Fedora core 1 the modem was recognized and modem_run, and pppd call adsl work good.
But now the modem is recognize, the command modem_run seems to run good but the command pppd call adsl doesn't works.

Many thanks if you have an idea !

[rdus77]

So, i recommpile my kernel and found the option speedtouch but It don't work !
Anybody can help me !

Thanks!!!!

[RuiP]

I have the same problem.
Do you use the kernel driver or the userland one? I can't connect in neither ways... What is real strange is, i no longer have any speedtch.o at /lib/modules/2.6.../kernel/drives/usb!!! (like at /lib/modules/2.4...)
It kernel mode remove from 2.6? In that case trying to connect using the kernel mode is useless... i think....
Any ideias?
thanks

[rdus77]

Sorry but still doesn't work with 2.6!
My kernel is now in 2.4 and work fine as in fedora core 1 !

Bye !

[RuiP]

I know it don't work! my question is why?
Of course is better think first then ask...
FC2 (test2) don't have speedtouch driver nor ATM build for the kernel. Just as simple as that!! Simple too... They must be build!

GENERAL NOTE: BE CAREFUL. Rebuilding the kernel can lead you to an unuseable system (just if something goes really wrong... but you can always redo the Install CDs routine, choosing the Recover/Update System!).

So, here how I've done:
(NOTES: Fresh Install. No SELinux. MUST have kernel sources installed.
edit: If you connect with a kernel 2.4 use the same method for the new 2.6. As a general How-to I list how I install and connect. I use T. Cogumbreiro's "gpppoe-conf Speedtouch Suite" It does EVERYTHING to SpeedTouch Installation, quickly and with a GUI. The best!! Get it from:
http://s1x.homelinux.net/gpppoe-conf.php or http://freshmeat.net/projects/gpppoe-conf )
( as root: )
1) mkdir /root/build/kernel
2) cd /usr/src/linux-2.6.3-2.1.253.2.1
(of course here you look for your kernel number....)
3) make 0=/root/build/kernel/ xconfig
3a) search and add: ATM, br2628, speedtch, (pppoa or pppoe)
4) make 0=/root/build/kernel/
5) make 0=/root/build/kernel/ modules_install install
6) {Reboot. Choose new custom kernel at grub. Everything OK?}
7) {Uncompress gpppoe-conf-0.3-ss to /usr}
8) gpppoe-conf
9) {edit /etc/ppp/options to:
noauth
lock
usepeerdns
noipdefault

9) speedtouch-pppoe start

9a) if not connected do 9) again and check
/var/log/messages
9b) if connected but can't do any net surf:
edit /etc/resolv.conf and add the lines of /etc/ppp/resolv.conf. Like this:
nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
nameserver yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy
where the xxx's and yyy's are the DNSs of your provider.

NOTE: of course if you dont use the Speedtouch-conf suite you do your usual connection rotine (usually pppd call myadsl)

TWEAKS:
- If you link speedtouch-pppoe to /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/ as S13speedtouch-pppoe connection will starts at linux's boot.

- You can replace /usr/ modem_run and pppoe for the latest version (1.2b3 to final 1.2)

- Praise for builded kernel drivers and support at the final FC2 (it was supose to be the very BEST!)

good luck,
have fun.

[jackson21]

This is still too complicated.
Look at the Mandrake people and MDK10

There a alcatel speedtouch-ADSL conn is done in no time.
No recompilation of kernel. This is ridiculous.

Anyway thanks for efforts.

jackson

[RuiP]

What is ridiculous?
WHO is ridiculous?

using your style:
FACT 1 You post a question about a *TEST* version! answering try xpto version 69 is a ridiculous answer. As you know Fedora 1 do it normally. If you want minimal work why install a test and ask for clues.I should reply: try Fedora 1! It works.

FACT 2 At the beginning of this page says> Fedora Core 2 Test Releases >Suggest to try a Mandrake version here is ridiculous!

FACT 3 Mandrake is a commercial application! Cheap but commercial. But even Mandrake is evolving with the test and trial of users. That's the spirit of GNU/Linux...
If you like final and close solution try Windows XX. System fails a lot, but "conn is done in no time.No recompilation of kernel." (Not even if is your desire!) In FACT you will never know or learn nothing that goes on.Its ridiculous easy and no brains need it... when it works...

FACT 4 There are dozens of post like yours around with exactly the same problems that you post, but with... Mandrake! Should we answer them, is ridiculous, try Fedora. I can even conn with Core2 test!

FACT 5 The ridiculous beauty of building kernel!
If you don't have a Speedtouch (1 in thousands) the kernel will be lighter without the drivers. If you have it then go to the (huge) trouble of typing 3 lines at terminal and reboot. It probably exhaust anyone...

FACT 6 I should surf the net for better things to see and read. Help is useless when the general solution is Another Thing 77 does easilly, why bother?

[rdus77]

Thats ok for me I installed core 2 test for the test, and it's a good reason !
The compilation of the kerneL is a good adea and i will test your solution.
Many thanks, so peace....
It's a forum, just a forum question/response etc...
So good night !

[jackson21]

Well, so let's try to reinvent the wheel again.
So far I have been rebuilding kernels
for more than 10 years with different
distros, and I am always happy to do so.
Fact is that up to kernel 2.4x the packages speedmgmt and speedtouch were sufficient to buld the necessary files for the ALCATEL speedtouch.
and I have successfully tried it even with Fedora Core 1.
Fact is that in most of the mayor
distros ADSL conn for ALCATEL speedtouch is not implemented.
There is a lot of info on the web. mostly outdated or incomplete, and for a beginner (which I am not) it is absolutely frustrating when he has to tinker too much about finding a way to conn to the internet.

Fact is that nowadays recompiling the kernel is mostly not necessary because you can load the necessary modules and add the necessary packages especially for the 2.6 kernel where a lot of the former loadable modules are already implemented.

Fact is that I still love to recompile kernels

[RuiP]

So if one's had a speedtouch must have a MDK, is that?
I payied an annual subscription for them to download the packages need to the modem and my scanner... They support both... neither never work with they configation tools... just find megas of .core files and sistem menus sistematiclly "cleanned" of any icons!! (and not a test version!)
Anyway, questions from your original post and this from rdus77, ask for clues on 2.6 at Fedora test, not wich distro works or was easy.

[RuiP]

Why all OS in the world had numbers in front of they names? My god! they are reinventting the whell? FC1 works and this guys instead of get sun on a beach they started to reinveted the wheel. And MDK guys too. Last here I live (Not very happy) with MDK9 on my computer. But, what are they doing... a (private?) community 10, and another 10, not communitary? If they don't stop they will reinvent the 10. I supose they will name it 11. Or 10.1? I never though on that... even that guy with LOTS of money, (William?), didn't he sells and well his OS, is reenventing the... what? the horn? They must be at home look at relics of the past (or wait a little till the future turns on to past...)

[RuiP]

I agree.
Net is full of useless and obsolete how-tos, but thats the point in post some helps at foruns.
But I don't agree, the packages you mention are not enough at several cases. They only satisfied the task if you use the userland drive and have a pppoa adsl service.
Kernel drivers was only build at kernel from 2.4.22 (see driver's author page at speedbundle site, e.g.) and with userland pppoe only works with obscure patched version of 1.1 driver and not totally suportted by B. Papillault's 1.2 drives or How-to... (strange, France providers seems to use pppoe...)
I can never get the "usual" procedure works with pppoe service, only my own updated versions of the patch Papillault links at his documentation!! Speedbundle never work with me too... I confess, I never understand why... I tried RH8, 9, MDK9, .1 ,.2, 10cmmty, SuSE9. Never I found the facilities that you point. And neither lots of others; just try a search for "speedtouch"... theer are dozens of posts about it, of people (strange, distro Mandrake appears a lot) that can't make it.
I make it work with ALL that distros but I always had to patch drivers source, compile and use obsolete pppoa2 and keep it running always on background to be connected!!
Then Fedora and 2.4.22 kernel apears and I tried the kernel driver. Worked it at first! Memory uses went from 80% to 60% (medias) and my log messages are not now filled with ALL5 errors! I tryied later the kernel driver at MDK10 and works at 1st! But under neither distro I could make a 2.6 works with Userland driver/pppoe adsl.

The 2.6 is still very young (no matter the years of use anyone had of Linux) If you look at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/speedtou.../msg06073.html
and following replyes, you will see that evan Duncan Sands himself are finding problems with that.
Here http://www.mail-archive.com/speedtou.../msg05895.html B. Papillault suggests a sintaxe to use pppoa3 with 2.6.4...
Maybe we should infom them that they OWN drivers work that easy on MDK10!

My reply to rdus77 was only made as a clean a short as possible how-to on how easy it was (for Kernel driver mode) with a simple kernel rebuild. No more, no less!
rdus77 tried and fail. I supose he forgot the ATM support and/or choose wrong pppoa/pppoe suport according to his own adsl service. THATS A *NOTE* TO MINI HOW-TO. Check/Choose pppoe or pppoa, as request by your provider.

again, have fun.

PS: rereading the link to Papillault post. The problem was the same here, but... with MDK 10! A quote is helpfull:

"Works on 2.6.4 for me (added "-e 1" to pppoa3 options to make it work, since otherwise kernel structures are not properly initialised)"

[jackson21]

Dear friend,
Thank you for your professional advice
and apologies for the expression I used about compiling the kernel.

I played already with Fedora Core2 (test1)
and the speedbundle install of ADSL.
where the ppp package of the 2.4 kernel version is used

But I was not lucky
Anyway we shall see in two days from now when the final Fedora Core Release
will be ready, what is implemented, and what is still missing.



jackson

[RuiP]

Dear Jackson,
You don't offend me so there is no need to apologies.

I just finded your expressions "ridiculous" and "reinventing the wheels" to heavy and out of place, so I try to defende my point of view... hope you don't think i had anything "personal" on it as i don't take your critics or comments as any of that kind. (Although i think it was not very polite your reply to my posts to yours and rdus77 threads in his thread...)

It's important to argue diferent points of views, and opinions and personal preferences HAD in fact a real part on softwares decisions and evolution; luckly for all of us Linux is that open!

Yes, i think everybody is very expectant to this new Fedora. New kernel, new X, new gnome, new nautilus, new office look... This really will be a new OS! Fedora is a very young distro, but is making a lot of waves!

hope you have a lot of fun,
rui

[jackson21]

Hi, RuiP,
Fedora core 2 is supposed to be released on May 18th ,
I am looking forward to the ALCATEL
speedtouch install .......

Bye from jackson