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Old 3rd May 2006, 10:12 PM
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NetworkworkManager Applet nm-applet forgets network name on FC5

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I'm really enjoying using the new NetworkManager applet on my wireless laptop in Fedora Core 5 - makes roaming much easier.

My only quible is that it forgets the settings for my home network. I have a 'hidden/non-broadcast' network-name/essid for my home network which is not using any Wireless security standards...

When booting my machine into GNOME, I click the nm-applet and choose to 'Connect to another wireless network'. I then enter my home wireless network name and set Wireless Security to none in the dialog box. When I press Ok, the applet successfully connects to my Wireless network and I can happily surf, etc. However, if I reboot or suspend/resume, the applet forgets the network name, doesn't show it in the list of available networks and as a result does not re-connect to the wireless network. I have to click on the applet again and expliclty re-add the network name, every time after a re-boot.

Any idea how I can make the applet remember my explictly added ssid.s so that it lists them and tries to re-connect following a re-boot,, etc, without the need to re-enter my network name every time?

My laptop info:

* Dell Latitude D600
* Fedora Core 5

> uname -a
Linux pdone01.homedone 2.6.16-1.2096_FC5 #1 Wed Apr 19 05:14:36 EDT 2006 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

> ndiswrapper -l
Installed drivers:
bcmwl5 driver installed, hardware present

> lspci
.....
02:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4309 802.11a/b/g (rev 03)
.....

Cheers

Paul
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Old 4th May 2006, 12:11 AM
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Hi

I'm really enjoying using the new NetworkManager applet on my wireless laptop in Fedora Core 5 - makes roaming much easier.

My only quible is that it forgets the settings for my home network. I have a 'hidden/non-broadcast' network-name/essid for my home network which is not using any Wireless security standards...

When booting my machine into GNOME, I click the nm-applet and choose to 'Connect to another wireless network'. I then enter my home wireless network name and set Wireless Security to none in the dialog box. When I press Ok, the applet successfully connects to my Wireless network and I can happily surf, etc. However, if I reboot or suspend/resume, the applet forgets the network name, doesn't show it in the list of available networks and as a result does not re-connect to the wireless network. I have to click on the applet again and expliclty re-add the network name, every time after a re-boot.

Any idea how I can make the applet remember my explictly added ssid.s so that it lists them and tries to re-connect following a re-boot,, etc, without the need to re-enter my network name every time?

My laptop info:

* Dell Latitude D600
* Fedora Core 5

> uname -a
Linux pdone01.homedone 2.6.16-1.2096_FC5 #1 Wed Apr 19 05:14:36 EDT 2006 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

> ndiswrapper -l
Installed drivers:
bcmwl5 driver installed, hardware present

> lspci
.....
02:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4309 802.11a/b/g (rev 03)
.....

Cheers

Paul

This is exactly how it is suppose to work. You are not broadcasting the SSID, so after a reboot, suspend, hibernate, etc you will have to enter the SSID manually. If you enable broadcast on your router, it will show in the NM list and you can just click on it......
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Old 4th May 2006, 07:18 AM
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Thanks for the response - I'm actually not enabling broadbast so that my neighbours don't find my wireless - for long winded reasons which I won't go into here, I can't use Wireless Securirty for my home network. I'm not saying behaviour on Windows is 'the right thing' but it does remember personal wireless network settings and attempt to re-suse them. It seems a genuine use case to allow this in the NetworkManager Applet - are you sure I can't achieve this? And of course my neighbours don't have access to my personal wireless settings on their computers so remembering personal wireless choices should not be an iissue.
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Old 4th May 2006, 02:49 PM
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Thanks for the response - I'm actually not enabling broadbast so that my neighbours don't find my wireless - for long winded reasons which I won't go into here, I can't use Wireless Securirty for my home network. I'm not saying behaviour on Windows is 'the right thing' but it does remember personal wireless network settings and attempt to re-suse them. It seems a genuine use case to allow this in the NetworkManager Applet - are you sure I can't achieve this? And of course my neighbours don't have access to my personal wireless settings on their computers so remembering personal wireless choices should not be an iissue.

It was possible to do this in FC4 with the hidden SSID, because that is how I used to use it. But since FC5 came out something changed in NetworkManager and quite a few people noticed this with the hidden SSIDs. I've tried and few others have tried for me I'm able to use encryption, so broadcasting the SSID is a moot point. Until some figures out a way to allow network manager to work properly with hidden ssid, I guess you have do it the manual way.
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Old 4th May 2006, 07:44 PM
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FYI, I found that someone has already logged a GNOME bug for this, which I've now added a comment to - see: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337556
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