Read / Write access on NTFS using Linux-NTFS

[andrewski]

Currently I have two SATA hard drives in my PC. One is a 80 gig (which does a dual boot with XP and FC 5) and the other is a 160 gig (the whole drive is NTFS for media files). As of now, I can only access the 160 drive and execute files from it. But I would like to write files to it also. i.e. put files on it that I have downloaded from FC 5. I know (I think) I just need to make a change to my fstab files. But don't know what! Here is my current fstab output.

[root@bender ~]# cat /etc/fstab
/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 /                       ext3    defaults        1 1
LABEL=/boot             /boot                   ext3    defaults        1 2
devpts                  /dev/pts                devpts  gid=5,mode=620  0 0
tmpfs                   /dev/shm                tmpfs   defaults        0 0
proc                    /proc                   proc    defaults        0 0
sysfs                   /sys                    sysfs   defaults        0 0
/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01 swap                    swap    defaults        0 0
/dev/sdb5               /mnt/media      ntfs    ro,defaults,umask=0222  0 0
/dev/sda1               /mnt/windows    ntfs    ro,defaults,umask=0222  0 0

Thanks!

[eworldorder]

i dont think you can write files on the ntfs partition.

I am newbie too, 5 days FC5 old.

But from what i read so far in these 5 days, you cant write on NTFS partition, you only can read!

[fpoole]

i dont think you can write files on the ntfs partition.

I am newbie too, 5 days FC5 old.

But from what i read so far in these 5 days, you cant write on NTFS partition, you only can read!

You've read some older posts, or posts from people who aren't up on the latest modules, my friend!

As of now, livna repositories have an NTFS kernel module that can read and write to NTFS partitions (AFAIK).

If you don't have yum set up for using the livna repos, simply run this command as root:

rpm -Uvh http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/5/`uname -m`/livna-release-5-4.noarch.rpm

(It might be -ivh, not on Linux right now, can't be sure. )

[eworldorder]

You've read some older posts, or posts from people who aren't up on the latest modules, my friend!

As of now, livna repositories have an NTFS kernel module that can read and write to NTFS partitions (AFAIK).

If you don't have yum set up for using the livna repos, simply run this command as root:

rpm -Uvh http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/5/`uname -m`/livna-release-5-4.noarch.rpm

(It might be -ivh, not on Linux right now, can't be sure. )

Fantastic news my friend, well I thought that posting the same question as andrew is usellss cose I read people can only read ntfs.
Thanks a lot, 1000X thanks

[eworldorder]

ok I installed livna-release-5-4.noarch.rpm , now what should I do, cose I cant write the ntfs partition ( i checked it )

[eworldorder]

A much better command : yum -y install kmod-ntfs
automatically install full packages


but I still cant write my ntfs

check this :
"Adding write support will take a long time. NTFS is built like a database. Any changes you make, necessitate making changes in many places, for consistency. Make a mistake and the filesystem will be damaged, make too many mistakes and the filesystem will be destroyed. Also, the current developers are only working on NTFS as a hobby, during their free time. If you’d like to help, please send an email to: linux-ntfs-dev@lists.sourceforge.net

How to write to NTFS. If you are using a dual-boot machine and just need NTFS write support to transfer files from Linux to Windows, you can instead use a Windows driver for ext2/ext3 and, while running Windows, read the files from the Linux partition instead. This way, using two read-only drivers, you can still copy files from one file system type to the other. "

http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?...tfs_volume_too

So I was right.

writing on NTFS is impossible right?

[fpoole]

A much better command : yum -y install kmod-ntfs
automatically install full packages


but I still cant write my ntfs

Have you mounted the partition as "rw" and not "ro"?

[eworldorder]

how can I mount the drive as rw?

[fpoole]

mount (device) (mountpoint) -t ntfs rw

If you haven't rebooted since installing the kernel module, I'm fairly certain you should do so.

[eworldorder]

mount (device) (mountpoint) -t ntfs rw

If you haven't rebooted since installing the kernel module, I'm fairly certain you should do so.

can you give me an example?
i am not sure what to put instead of (device) and (mountpoint)

[SlowJet]

The write news is old.
What the old posts are impling is the short cut version of older post that say the read is questuonable enough and the write is not in anyqay 100% safe. NTFS is owned by Microsoft and only Microsoft has the complete specifications. The Linux versions were coded by trial and error command strings to reproduce the results on the disk, without a clue as to how it was actually done. It is not an NTFS driver. It is an NTFS clone and could render your Windows system unusable.

Run at your own risk.

SJ

[eworldorder]

I have an idea.

For example I noticed that I can copy and erase files using Fedora5 from my desktop computer that is running windows on the shared partition.

Why dosen't someone make a software for fedora to emulate a network conection betwen the ext3 and the ntfs partion ( on the same computer + shared + read write) to emulate the same effect ???

[fpoole]

I have an idea.

For example I noticed that I can copy and erase files using Fedora5 from my desktop computer that is running windows on the shared partition.

Why dosen't someone make a software for fedora to emulate a network conection betwen the ext3 and the ntfs partion ( on the same computer + shared + read write) to emulate the same effect ???

You could probably have this effect if you could run both OSes simultaneously (without using VMware, etc.) and connect to local loopback.

Examples:
(device) = /dev/hda3
(mountpoint) = /mnt/NTFS/hda3

If you do this, be sure that the folder /mnt/NTFS/hda3 exists and that the permissions are set as you would like.

To look at your partition table, run "fdisk -l". This lists your partitions; this way you can get the device that correspons to your NTFS partition. Because of what our friend above mentioned, however, I would caution against writing to disk with this, so for now you might stick to read-only.

[fpoole]

The write news is old.
What the old posts are impling is the short cut version of older post that say the read is questuonable enough and the write is not in anyqay 100% safe. NTFS is owned by Microsoft and only Microsoft has the complete specifications. The Linux versions were coded by trial and error command strings to reproduce the results on the disk, without a clue as to how it was actually done. It is not an NTFS driver. It is an NTFS clone and could render your Windows system unusable.

Run at your own risk.

SJ

Even that being the case, my read support has been fine so far. Just saying.

[andrewski]

Hrmm, thanks for the replies guys. Guess I'll just create a ext2/3 partition on my media drive and install a driver in windows so I can transfer that way.