kmod-nvidia and 2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12 update confusion.

DTParanoia · #1 27th January 2010, 06:39 AM

I am a bit confused about my current kernel/kmod-nvidia update situation. When I run "yum check-update" I am confronted with the output below:

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kernel.x86_64                                                                            2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12                                              updates                  
kernel-devel.x86_64                                                                      2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12                                              updates                  
kernel-firmware.noarch                                                                   2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12                                              updates                  
kernel-headers.x86_64                                                                    2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12                                              updates                  
kmod-nvidia.x86_64                                                                       190.53-1.fc12.1                                                     rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
kmod-nvidia-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64.x86_64                                              190.53-1.fc12                                                       rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia.x86_64                                                               190.53-1.fc12                                                       rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs.i686                                                            190.53-1.fc12                                                       rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs.x86_64                                                          190.53-1.fc12                                                       rpmfusion-nonfree-updates

From the above you can see that I can update to 2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12 but that the only available kmod-nvidia listed is kmod-nvidia-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64.x86_64 which is for the current kernel not 2.6.31.12-174.

So I ran "yum list kmod-nvidia*" and received the following:

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Installed Packages
kmod-nvidia.x86_64                                                                              190.42-1.fc12.9                                             @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
kmod-nvidia-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.x86_64.x86_64                                                     190.42-1.fc12.7                                             @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
kmod-nvidia-2.6.31.6-166.fc12.x86_64.x86_64                                                     190.42-1.fc12.8                                             @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
kmod-nvidia-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64.x86_64                                                     190.42-1.fc12.9                                             @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
Available Packages
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kmod-nvidia-2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.x86_64.x86_64                                                190.53-1.fc12.1                                             rpmfusion-nonfree-updates

The above indicates that kmod-nvidia-2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.x86_64.x86_64 is available but for some reason when I run check-update or list updates only the kmod-nvidia numbered for 2.6.31.9 shown up, is anyone else having this issue or am I just the lucky one?

I have tried yum clean all in hopes that it would clear up but it didn't help, any suggestions?

ozjd · #2 27th January 2010, 06:53 AM

It isn't unusual for the kmod not to appear for a few days after the kernel is released. You can avoid all the problems with the kmod by installing the akmod. It automatically creates the kmod if they don't exist on your system.

DTParanoia · #3 27th January 2010, 06:56 AM

Am I missing something or doesn't the appearance of kmod-nvidia-2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.x86_64.x86_64 in the output of

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yum list kmod-nvidia*

indicate that it has appeared in the mirror that I just queried? Perhaps I'm confused but it seems to me that if it appears when I list kmod-nvidia* that is should also appear in my check-update output.

ozjd · #4 27th January 2010, 07:03 AM

Sorry I misread your question, however my comments about akmod still stands its just slightly off topic.

As I understand it, if I'm wrong some more knowledgeable person will correct me, yum will only show the kmod that matches your installed kernel. It won't try and install one for a kernel you don't have. When you update the kernel it will pull in the matching kmod, if it exists, as a dependency.

DTParanoia · #5 27th January 2010, 07:09 AM

Point taken about akmods I've just always opted to hold off on updates until the updated kmods get pushed to rpmfusion, though this little mix-up might persuade me otherwise.

This is a good segway to say that yes you are right, it is marked as installed for dependencies, I guess I just missed that before and posted out of confusion/frustration. Sorry for the post, I feel stupid now, this is a non-issue, thanks for bringing me out of my stupor though

ozjd · #6 27th January 2010, 07:12 AM

It is not stupid to ask a question when you aren't sure, it's better than wandering around in confusion

Hopefully it may help someone else that reads it too.

#7 27th January 2010, 05:30 PM

I have always installed the akmods and have never looked back

Just one question. When the akmods build the kmods, yum sees them when "yum update" right? so it will want to download the kmod along with the new kernel?

I have been running this instead when updating:

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yum update --exclude=kmod-nvidia*

Is this 'correct'? Should i not be excluding those packages? The reason I do that is becuase they broke metacity the first time I update my system in F12.

ozjd · #8 27th January 2010, 09:34 PM

I don't worry about excluding them and haven't had any problems. I don't see it will cause a problem to exclude them as they aren't required once you have the akmod.