How to set up bluetooth DUN?

erroneus · #1 17th February 2010, 06:13 PM

In the past, I have used USB and/or built-in wireless broadband devices that the system detected (I assume) and set up the software appropriately at install time.

I have a netbook and after setting everything up, I later added a bluetooth dongle which it uses easily. I was able to connect to my phone without trouble... or at least it appears to.

In the network manager applet, there are only two connection types available. Wired and wireless. On my laptop with built-in wireless broadband, there is a 3rd option for wireless broadband.

How do I enable this option in this case? I have installed any and all packages I imagine could be relevant including wvdial and all that. I have restarted Network Manager and even the whole machine numerous times.

When right-clicking on NetworkManager and doing "Edit Connections" I am able to manually add an entry for mobile broadband, but it is never accessible in any way.

What am I not doing? What am I doing wrong?

**AdamW** · #2 18th February 2010, 01:01 AM

There should have been a message on the last screen when you were pairing the device, with a checkbox for enabling DUN support. Did you miss that?

See: http://blogs.gnome.org/dcbw/2009/07/...etworkmanager/

erroneus · #3 18th February 2010, 01:06 AM

I found this article also. But my dialog does not have this check mark. Do you use bluetooth and DUN?

madhavdiwan · #4 18th February 2010, 01:22 AM

You should not need to make a wireless broadband entry. ( these instructions are Fedora 12 specific , but should be similar for some older Fedoras )

With bluetooth tethering , which is what you are attempting, you should simply be able to connect the phone via bluetooth and then check off the "access to internet via mobile phone" in the bluetooth dialog that comes up when setting up a new bluetooth device

That will then give you a connection option for your phone device in the NetworkManager

note that you might get authentication , configuration , and activation dialogues on your phone throughout this procedure, if unsure then you should follow your Phones manual for these, usually they are intuitive enough to get through by just reading what they ask you to do.

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please note the final sentence in the guide from the URL link:

Quote:

You’ll need gnome-bluetooth >= 2.27.7.1, bluez >= 4.42, and git master of both NetworkManager and network-manager-applet.

erroneus · #5 18th February 2010, 01:25 AM

I don't get that at all. I am using a Blackberry 8120 phone and long ago, I used it for tethering. I have since forgotten all the command line kung fu I once used to get connected.

Does anyone know where I could look to see what the system sees/knows about my phones?

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"git master"? What is that? It's not in yum. Do I need to get some source code and compile it?

If this isn't part of the production release of Fedora 12, would someone please just say so?

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It would seem this isn't due for official release until Fedora 13. I did find some command-line/script solutions I should be able to adapt here:

http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_inte...ooth_gsm_phone

madhavdiwan · #6 18th February 2010, 01:56 AM

woah! can we backup please? I have fedora 11 and 12 and they both have this functionality

"git master" in this case just means "the latest released from git .. and by that he also means "released at the time of writing this blog entry"

it might be better to simply ask, what fedora are you running ? can you please provide the results of the command

uname -a

and then could you please also post the results of

rpm -qi NetworkManager bluez gnome-bluetooth

erroneus · #7 18th February 2010, 02:14 AM

Code:

[daniel@Alpha ~]$ uname -a
Linux Alpha 2.6.31.12-174.2.19.fc12.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Feb 11 07:07:16 UTC 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[daniel@Alpha ~]$ rpm -qi NetworkManager bluez gnome-bluetooth 
Name        : NetworkManager               Relocations: (not relocatable)
Version     : 0.8.0                             Vendor: Fedora Project
Release     : 0.4.git20100211.fc13          Build Date: Fri 12 Feb 2010 02:37:33 AM EST
Install Date: Wed 17 Feb 2010 08:52:35 PM EST      Build Host: x86-04.phx2.fedoraproject.org
Group       : System Environment/Base       Source RPM: NetworkManager-0.8.0-0.4.git20100211.fc13.src.rpm
Size        : 3640957                          License: GPLv2+
Signature   : RSA/8, Sun 14 Feb 2010 03:40:42 PM EST, Key ID 7edc6ad6e8e40fde
Packager    : Fedora Project
URL         : http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
Summary     : Network connection manager and user applications
Description :
NetworkManager attempts to keep an active network connection available at all
times.  It is intended only for the desktop use-case, and is not intended for
usage on servers.   The point of NetworkManager is to make networking
configuration and setup as painless and automatic as possible.  If using DHCP,
NetworkManager is _intended_ to replace default routes, obtain IP addresses
from a DHCP server, and change nameservers whenever it sees fit.
Name        : bluez                        Relocations: (not relocatable)
Version     : 4.58                              Vendor: Fedora Project
Release     : 1.fc12                        Build Date: Mon 16 Nov 2009 05:14:34 AM EST
Install Date: Sat 05 Dec 2009 01:28:56 PM EST      Build Host: x86-6.fedora.phx.redhat.com
Group       : Applications/System           Source RPM: bluez-4.58-1.fc12.src.rpm
Size        : 950188                           License: GPLv2+
Signature   : RSA/8, Mon 16 Nov 2009 08:34:18 AM EST, Key ID 9d1cc34857bbccba
Packager    : Fedora Project
URL         : http://www.bluez.org/
Summary     : Bluetooth utilities
Description :
Utilities for use in Bluetooth applications:
	- hcitool
	- hciattach
	- hciconfig
	- bluetoothd
	- l2ping
	- start scripts (Red Hat)
	- pcmcia configuration files

The BLUETOOTH trademarks are owned by Bluetooth SIG, Inc., U.S.A.
Name        : gnome-bluetooth              Relocations: (not relocatable)
Version     : 2.28.6                            Vendor: Fedora Project
Release     : 2.fc12                        Build Date: Thu 07 Jan 2010 01:00:23 PM EST
Install Date: Fri 29 Jan 2010 02:49:55 AM EST      Build Host: x86-01.phx2.fedoraproject.org
Group       : Applications/Communications   Source RPM: gnome-bluetooth-2.28.6-2.fc12.src.rpm
Size        : 1578718                          License: GPLv2+
Signature   : RSA/8, Thu 07 Jan 2010 02:16:17 PM EST, Key ID 9d1cc34857bbccba
Packager    : Fedora Project
URL         : http://live.gnome.org/GnomeBluetooth
Summary     : Bluetooth graphical utilities
Description :
The gnome-bluetooth package contains graphical utilities to setup,
monitor and use Bluetooth devices.
[daniel@Alpha ~]$

Just prior to getting your last message, I discovered that there are some binaries in the rawhide repo. I upgraded to version 0.8.x where previously I was at 7.999.

I now get this check box option but it does not work. I suspect I also need to upgrade my other portions to match.

According to this page:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Featur...erBluetoothDUN

This feature isn't official until Fedora 13. And i know for certain that it isn't present in 7.999 versions as I have three machines with Fedora 12 and they all behave the same except for this one which I only moments ago pushed it forward with rawhide. (Something I usually don't do.)

Okay, because I was unable to complete this function due to a reported "time out" when DUN was being set up, I presumed that it was a software compatibility issue and I upgraded bluez and gnome-bluetooth from rawhide as well. The gnome-bluetooth applet was completely broken and unusable. I am quickly reminded as to why I don't normally go down this rabbit hole. To satisfy all dependencies, I would probably have to replace all of everything GNOME in the process. This is not something I am willing to do. Yum allowed me to downgrade and that was pretty handy.

Still, I am curious -- are all the people claiming that it works in F12 and even F11 using official RPMs or are they obtaining the packages from somewhere else? Are we compiling from the git source repository? Using the FC13/rawhide packages for NetworkManager almost did the trick though. I'll be pleased once all of this comes together.

madhavdiwan · #8 18th February 2010, 02:55 AM

Ok, my mistake , I assumed you meant PAN, not actual DUN, should have asked and been clearer, sorry about that.

Neat that we've got it in F13 though. I'm trying it out too now that you've pointed it out.....

madhavdiwan · #9 18th February 2010, 08:30 PM

Ok , looked at FC13...
found that if you install blueman in fc12 you get the same DUN that erroneus is looking for.
please try using the blueman package and using that instead of the simpler gnome-bluetooth

yum install blueman

This will get you blueman which has DUN support along with the current NetworkManager in FC12 (yes the 7.997 version) , it may be in your system menu until you start using it.

erroneus · #10 19th February 2010, 12:08 AM

Blueman is definitely much better, but it still doesn't let me connect to DUN. It says ModemManager doesn't understand my modem. The NetworkManager seems to understand my DUN settings based on a database of carriers that is maintained, but there is no tie between blueman and NetworkManager. I wonder if there is something I can tweak in ModemManager to make it complete.

madhavdiwan · #11 19th February 2010, 12:50 AM

which ModemManager are you using?

yum info ModemManager

i had to delete my phone device and recreate it in blueman , then check off the checkbox for DUN and it appeared in NetworkManager

erroneus · #12 19th February 2010, 07:54 AM

Code:

Installed Packages
Name       : ModemManager
Arch       : x86_64
Version    : 0.3
Release    : 1.git20100119.fc12
Size       : 415 k
Repo       : installed
From repo  : updates
Summary    : Mobile broadband modem management service
URL        : http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
License    : GPLv2+
Description: The ModemManager service provides a consistent API to operate many different
           : modems, including mobile broadband (3G) devices.

I thought that perhaps I should remove gnome-bluetooth. When I did, it didn't seem to make much difference. Then I changed blueman's settings to handling DUN itself. According to my /var/log/messages, it attempts to be dialing out but an IP connection is never established.

madhavdiwan · #13 19th February 2010, 02:32 PM

you have the same version i have....

please post relevant /var/log/ messages