Surprising things in F12

BenTrein · #1 18th February 2010, 05:19 AM

I love Fedora, and haven't used anything else for several years now. But there's one thing that keeps surprising me about it. I've found this in every release I've used so far (from F8 onwards). When you install it twice, you don't get exactly the same package.
As in, I don't.

I use exactly the same settings during install, but not always the same things run. The first time, for example, I was very very impressed, as everything worked that I needed in one try. However, a power-outage during an update f*ed everything up, and I decided to reinstall (from the same disk!). Now, when I install the Opera 10.10 rpm, Opera won't open. When I download and run Songbird, nothing happens. When I yum-install conky (and put the script correctly in place) nothing happens. Something must've gone wrong, right? But why? At no point did I get any errors...

Like I said, I've noticed this irregularity in all releases I've used so far... I've learnt to take it for granted, but I still find it weird, and thought I should share it with you.

Dies · #2 18th February 2010, 05:27 AM

Yeah, it's happened to me a couple of times, so it's not surprising to hear you say that.

galahad42 · #3 18th February 2010, 09:22 AM

If you launch Opera from a terminal do you get an error ?

When you try a yum install of conky do you get an error ?

Could you post the output

smurffit · #4 18th February 2010, 11:20 AM

Same here. Sometimes i get wired errors/problems after a reinstall, that i've had never before.
I got the best results with Netinstall-CDs, the DVDs made always problems here.

BenTrein · #5 18th February 2010, 12:40 PM

The weirdness continues. I just can't live without Opera, so I decided to reinstall again. Now most things work again straight off the DVD. Even Opera, although something weird still happens: it doesn't appear in any of the menus. But ALT+F2 helps it run, and a custom launcher in the panel makes it run too. It even automatically found the icon, so why it's not in the menu is a mystery to me.

But now it's time for dinner.

BenTrein · #6 2nd March 2010, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by galahad42

If you launch Opera from a terminal do you get an error ?
When you try a yum install of conky do you get an error ?
Could you post the output

Another reinstall later - yes, it's a sport to see how many differences I can spot every time I reinstall

- I get no error yum-installing conky, but I do get an error when I try to launch opera from a terminal - namely a missing shared library:

Code:

/usr/lib/opera/opera: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Anyone any idea how I get this?

smr54 · #7 2nd March 2010, 03:07 PM

You have to install qt I think. The way to check

yum provides */libqt-mt.so.3

(I've forgotten if the answer is qt, or qt-devel or something slightly different.)

(I think the next versions of opera will be supplying their own qt libs, however).

foldingstock · #8 2nd March 2010, 03:14 PM

BenTrein, out of curiosity, are you installing from a CD or DVD? What speed did you burn the disc?

In the past, I have had similar issues when installing from a disc burned at max speed. If I burn the disc at a lower speed, I do not have these problems.

leigh123linux · #9 3rd March 2010, 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenTrein

Another reinstall later - yes, it's a sport to see how many differences I can spot every time I reinstall

- I get no error yum-installing conky, but I do get an error when I try to launch opera from a terminal - namely a missing shared library:

Code:

/usr/lib/opera/opera: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Anyone any idea how I get this?

What's surprising ?

( the opera version on there site is qt3 crap ) .
Try looking for the qt4 version (I couldn't find it on there site)

I used this rpm on my 64 bit Rawhide install ( works great )

http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat....i586.rpm.html

Code:

su
yum install qt-x11.i686
rpm -ivh --nodeps opera-qt4-10.10-1pclos2010.i586.rpm

leigh123linux · #10 3rd March 2010, 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smr54

You have to install qt I think. The way to check

yum provides */libqt-mt.so.3

(I've forgotten if the answer is qt, or qt-devel or something slightly different.)

(I think the next versions of opera will be supplying their own qt libs, however).

That's a good reason to stop using it IMO

***Hlingler*** · #11 3rd March 2010, 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leigh123linux

Try looking for the qt4 version (I couldn't find it on there site)

I used this rpm on my 64 bit Rawhide install ( works great )

Opera's own QT4 RPM is not advertised, but it's available: http://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/linux...final/en/i386/
Direct download URL for opera-10.10-4742.gcc4.qt4.i386 RPM: http://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/linux...4.qt4.i386.rpm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenTrein

Another reinstall later - yes, it's a sport to see how many differences I can spot every time I reinstall - I get no error yum-installing conky, but I do get an error when I try to launch opera from a terminal - namely a missing shared library:

Code:

/usr/lib/opera/opera: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Anyone any idea how I get this?

su
yum provides libqt-mt.so.3
[...]
yum install qt3

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