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Old 26th March 2017, 07:24 AM
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Question Install Ryzen 7 1700 with Fedora 26

Has anyone successfully installed Fedora 26 on a Ryzen 7 system?

Since I expect the earlies kernels to work on Ryzen 7 1700 will be kernels series 4.10 .

Fedora 26 Alpha release is just around the corner: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/26/Schedule:

2017-03-14
2017-03-21
2017-03-28

2017-04-04 Alpha Release

My best guess: Fedora maintainers are also waiting Fedora F26 Alpha to be successfully ported on AMD Ryzen 7 platforms (with B350 and Z370 chip-sets).

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Old 30th March 2017, 11:26 PM
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Re: Install Ryzen 7 1700 with Fedora 26

You don't have to guess about anything. The whole development process is open. No, the Alpha release date has nothing to do with Ryzen support - I don't think any of the core Fedora devs or QA people *has* a Ryzen system to test on. But if it's supposed to work with kernel 4.10, it should work with Fedora 26, since F26 has 4.11 kernels.

F25 is now on 4.10 kernels, so it may even work there. You could wait for the next round of updated F25 live respins and try with those: https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/live-respins/ - I don't think the 20170318 ones have a 4.10 kernel, but the next lot should.
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Old 31st March 2017, 05:13 AM
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Hey, Mr. Williamson,

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You don't have to guess about anything. The whole development process is open. No, the Alpha release date has nothing to do with Ryzen support - I don't think any of the core Fedora devs or QA people *has* a Ryzen system to test on. But if it's supposed to work with kernel 4.10, it should work with Fedora 26, since F26 has 4.11 kernels.
Thank you for the update. No, I do not have Ryzen myself, also. But, in nutshell, I would like to read if anyone has one, and tried F26 on it.

My best guess (contrary to what you said that I don't have to guess, you are correct in some things) is that x86/amd64 architecture should be compatible with INTEL i386/x86_64, then the generic F26 drivers should work. With kernels 4.10/4.11 .

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Re: Install Ryzen 7 1700 with Fedora 26

I waited one extra year to save my pennies to purchase a new desktop to replace my 9 year old one. I am planning to aquire same once the dust settles and the bargains appear. I will give it three months, and then I will look to either build or buy.

Building is more my inclination. When I say that, there is a shop around me that builds custom systems. His shop usually beats the Big Box stores and the Big Name internet retailers. My target system will run Fedora 26.
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Old 3rd April 2017, 08:31 AM
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Building is more my inclination. When I say that, there is a shop around me that builds custom systems. His shop usually beats the Big Box stores and the Big Name internet retailers. My target system will run Fedora 26.
Leslie, so you'll build a custom one, Ryzen 7 1700 (or 1800), as I understood, correct? Cool! Looking forward to see/read how it behaves (with full HW platform config) under Fedora 26 (presumably 64bit)!

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Re: Install Ryzen 7 1700 with Fedora 26

I am going to be an early user, but not a bleeding edge user.
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Re: Install Ryzen 7 1700 with Fedora 26

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Has anyone successfully installed Fedora 26 on a Ryzen 7 system?

Since I expect the earlies kernels to work on Ryzen 7 1700 will be kernels series 4.10 .

Fedora 26 Alpha release is just around the corner: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/26/Schedule:

2017-03-14
2017-03-21
2017-03-28

2017-04-04 Alpha Release

My best guess: Fedora maintainers are also waiting Fedora F26 Alpha to be successfully ported on AMD Ryzen 7 platforms (with B350 and Z370 chip-sets).

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Yes, I am currently using a Ryzen 1700 with the latest updates.

Some specs:
Fedora 26 (with latest updates)
Kernel: 4.11.0-0.rc7.git0.1.fc26.x86_64
CPU: Ryzen 7 1700
MOBO: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon
GPU: ASUS Strix R9 380 4GB[COLOR="Silver"]

---------- Post added at 11:39 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:37 AM ----------

There seems to be some instability with Firefox, so I use Firefox Nightly.

May also be some instability with Gnome, but I am still looking into that.
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Re: Install Ryzen 7 1700 with Fedora 26

Hi Steve

Aside from the stability, how do you find performance. What was your previous system and how does this one compare.
How much ram does the new system have?
I am targeting the purchase of the 1700 system, mainly because of the 65watt indication. I do know that for a small additional amount, I can get the 95 watt 1700x, but I am looking for a quiet running system, not with a lot of fan noise to cool the 95watt 1700x. Is it really worth the bump to 1700x? Pundants say no. I am after a home desktop system
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Yes, I am currently using a Ryzen 1700 with the latest updates.

Some specs:
Fedora 26 (with latest updates)
Kernel: 4.11.0-0.rc7.git0.1.fc26.x86_64
CPU: Ryzen 7 1700
MOBO: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon
GPU: ASUS Strix R9 380 4GB

---------- Post added at 11:39 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:37 AM ----------

There seems to be some instability with Firefox, so I use Firefox Nightly.

May also be some instability with Gnome, but I am still looking into that.
Hello Steve,

Thank you very much for the report, appreciated.

I'll ask more concrete, than Leslie, if you are willing to answer:
[1] Did you have any problems installing F26 on Ryzen 7 1700, or everything went smooth?
[2] If problems, what kind of problems, at least (not going to ask for the solutions, would be too much)?
[3] Instability with GNOME, what kind? Are you using Wayland, or X11 backend?
[4] I see that you are using X370 Chipset. Are you satisfied with it?
[5] Dmesg and Xog.0.log would be extras, if you are willing to attach to this thread?

Leslie, I am targeting Ryzen 7 1700 as well. 65W is imperative.

Steve, thank you in advance for any answer,
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Re: Install Ryzen 7 1700 with Fedora 26

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Hello Steve,

Thank you very much for the report, appreciated.

I'll ask more concrete, than Leslie, if you are willing to answer:
[1] Did you have any problems installing F26 on Ryzen 7 1700, or everything went smooth?
[2] If problems, what kind of problems, at least (not going to ask for the solutions, would be too much)?
[3] Instability with GNOME, what kind? Are you using Wayland, or X11 backend?
[4] I see that you are using X370 Chipset. Are you satisfied with it?
[5] Dmesg and Xog.0.log would be extras, if you are willing to attach to this thread?

Leslie, I am targeting Ryzen 7 1700 as well. 65W is imperative.

Steve, thank you in advance for any answer,
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[1] No, everything is fine with the exception of gnome crashing once in a while randomly. Installation was fine, but you should update the BIOS as it is very unstable stock
[2] The only real problem I have had besides gnome crashing is that I cannot easily change the RGB colors for the mobo and cpu. There is some software out there to do it, but I need some time to get it working
[3] I am currently using Wayland. Simply, I get this message in the logs
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[4] Yeah, I have no complaints with the chipset
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Hi Steve

Aside from the stability, how do you find performance. What was your previous system and how does this one compare.
How much ram does the new system have?
I am targeting the purchase of the 1700 system, mainly because of the 65watt indication. I do know that for a small additional amount, I can get the 95 watt 1700x, but I am looking for a quiet running system, not with a lot of fan noise to cool the 95watt 1700x. Is it really worth the bump to 1700x? Pundants say no. I am after a home desktop system
I have 32 GB with this build.

I really have a hard time justifying the price since that is a significant bump in power consumption. If you wanted to, I have heard good things about overclocking with the 1700 to 1800x levels...

Depending on what you use it for, the 1500/1600 series could be a better deal. It is sort of up to you and what you plan on using it for.
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Re: Install Ryzen 7 1700 with Fedora 26

Hi Steve,

I much appreciate your experience with the 1700. I am, so to say, waiting for the initial bugs to be resolved. I choose not to be on the bleeding edge.

I am still targeting the 1700 for mid July. This past week I read that AMD has released a substantial bios update that addresses memory access speed and some other undisclosed items. My target system is 16gig (2x8g @2900 ddr4) ram. x370 motherboard for the 1700. I suspect that a modern graphics card will consume upto 20 watts. My existing 500 watt PS will do the job.

I intend to use the stock bios with updates and not pushing the system beyond the autoconfig defaults. I want a fast reliable system.

By the way, are you using your system for some non I/O (compute stuff)? Do you notice much difference from the computer you replaced?
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Sorry for the late response, but here it is:
Better very late than NEver!

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[1] No, everything is fine with the exception of gnome crashing once in a while randomly. Installation was fine, but you should update the BIOS as it is very unstable stock
Not sure why gnome is unstable... These days I am trying to (mentally) board X11 concept and Wayland GFX architecture. It is very painful process, indeed.

But about BIOS, perfectly understandable. Way to go, YET!

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[2] The only real problem I have had besides gnome crashing is that I cannot easily change the RGB colors for the mobo and cpu. There is some software out there to do it, but I need some time to get it working
For me, this is the aside activity, in modelling the true (REAL storage server) problem(s) I am facing.

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[3] I am currently using Wayland. Simply, I get this message in the logs
Code:
  Unrecoverable failure in required component org.gnome.Shell.desktop
No Comment. Very soon, I'll post some lamenting here (on this sub-forum) about Wayland Clients and Wayland Compositor. Interesting stuff, I should tell.

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[4] Yeah, I have no complaints with the chipset
YET (for me) to understand the differences (big picture) between INTEL PCH and AMD chipset!

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[5] I will attach later
Eagerly waiting attachments to analyse... I improved my dmesg/kernel logs analysis. It is, after all, an interesting challenge.

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Watch out!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment...y_pc_publicly/

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that figures, I can't say I'm surprised by that reddit posting. Anything Intel does AMD usually ape in some form.
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