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1st December 2009, 11:01 AM
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upgrading from 11 to 12
Hi all,
I had fedora 10 a while back,and when fedora 11 came out a few days later my PC prompted me to upgrade.. all from desktop.. clicked one button and that was it, 10 minutes later it was upgraded... perfect.
This time, I'm sat on fedora 11 looking at the timeline for the 12 release, it gets released and i'm still waiting for 11 to tell me i can upgrade... I know I can upgrade manually, but im quite interested as to why it hasnt asked me automatically this time.
Anyone got any ideas? Maybe something in my config is stopping it?
Any ideas be great
cheers,
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2nd December 2009, 10:54 AM
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I Guess no one else had this issue
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2nd December 2009, 08:45 PM
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we suppressed the automatic notification because preupgrading from 11 to 12 has some issues, but if you follow the notes at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Commo...reupgrade-boot , you should be able to do it.
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3rd December 2009, 09:43 AM
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Hi Adam,
Thanks for the information, I will go down the manual route you posted thanks.
Will the upgrade prompt return in 13 or has it gone forever? ... I'm quite lazy and like to be reminded to do stuff like upgrade, also if the functionality exists, it seems a little bit of a waste for people not to be able to access it. Just imo.
Many thanks,
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Hi Adam,
I just read your message again and notice you said "because preupgrading from 11 to 12 has some issues" and you sent me instructions to "preupgrading" and now I'm confused... 12 is stable, and the latest official release, where has the "pre" come from? Surely its just "upgrading"?
Thanks for the ongoing help, please excuse me if I'm asking an obvious question.
Regards,
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3rd December 2009, 08:56 PM
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oh, sorry  . preupgrade is the name of the tool that actually gets used to do the upgrade, it doesn't reflect any kind of instability.
the notification may not come back in f13 because unfortunately f12 still uses a too-small 200MB partition for /boot by default  we'll fix that properly for f13, then I guess the prompt can come back in f14. Don't know the final plans for sure yet, though. We may find some clever way around the issue.
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4th December 2009, 09:37 PM
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O.K Adam, thanks for clearing that up for me and all your time.
Regards
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5th January 2010, 04:47 PM
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Hi again Adam,
I got round to using pre upgrade today... I updated the packagekit before I started out but still did not have enough room in /boot.. So I followed the guide on removing old kernals and the upgrade went through, however I hit a problem..
When PC tried to reboot it just sits at "initializing hardware .." and goes no thing.. I have to manually reboot it to snap it out of this... If I select the old fed 11 option from the boot menu everything loads up fine as it does before, as soon as I select the "upgrade to 12 .." menu option, fails at that message.. a screen shot is attached.
Do you have any idea about this or have seen it before?
Many thanks again,
Sir P
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5th January 2010, 04:59 PM
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do you get this error after the pre-upgrade, or is this part of the pre-upgrade?
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5th January 2010, 06:21 PM
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hi there,
preupgrade and downloaded all its bits then said "reboot" to complete etc... when I did that, as it tried to come back up it hit the problem.
many thanks
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I just added "noprobe" to the boot command and it now seems to be coming up and configuring itself.. I will post an update once its finished.. looking good though 
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With the noprobe in the boot command the OS boots into a graphical display.. displays a small dialog box that reads "retrieving installation information for install repos" ... and then the cursos stops spinning and the pc has totally froze, cant ctrl + alt f1,f2 or f3... totally frozen.
ive rebooted and tried a few times and it has the same problem everytime... so I cant use F12, I would sacrifce my setup and install 12 from scratch but fear id have the same issue... I think I will sit on F11 for a while longer
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