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20th January 2010, 01:14 PM
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I did notice on that other page about the difference in Kernel versions???
I thought that Fedora 12 was suppose to launch with the 2.6.32?
I am not all that savy on updating my kernel manually. Is it as simple as using yum like some other forums talk about? Or will that FUBAR my install?
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20th January 2010, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by damianlperez
At the first time, i used to boot with the option nomodeset or i915.modeset=0, with that option i could install fedora. Now my screen works fine but i can't enable compiz because it causes my computer freeze, and if i use i915.modeset=0 with this configuration my machine goes black
Mi lspci show me that my arrandale video card is a i915 based, yet i have tried without good results to use ï915"o my drivers definition.
Thank you again for your help!!!!
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Next time use pastebin or code tags for the output, I don't bother reading output when it's presented badly.
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20th January 2010, 03:37 PM
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All I know about kernel updates is that when I do a general update with "yum -y update", I often get a new kernel.
The problem you have with compiz, of course, suggests a problem with 3D rendering. I don't have any ideas about that at the moment.
Perhaps it will help to make our terminology precise. However, trying to do this is the usual computer comedy of very precise sounding names that are used imprecisely. For example, both "Arrandale" and "Arrandale-SV" appear on the web. Are they the same thing? Apparently an "Arrandale" is a motherboard "chipset". Such chipsets have a "graphics core". For the "Arrandale", the graphics core might be the GMA X4500HD or the GMA X4500MHD. I read that the "MHD" is the "mobile" version, so that's what I would expect to be in a laptop.
So we should research the status of Linux support for the GMA X4500 core.
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20th January 2010, 04:01 PM
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I don't know if this will help, but there appears to be a python error in system-config-display. I saved the error message but I have no access to it because Fedora 12 keeps forcing checks on my disks which are all large and it takes forever for them to complete.
I have also noticed that the microcode_ctl program gives me a warning about modprobe vs modprobe.d but I don't think this is related.
On my laptop (Toshiba) hibernate no longer works at all, but the display does flash some multicolored stuff before it goes black forcing me to do a hard restart.
Finally I am running a GeForce 9400 on my main system with dual heads and it almost never comes up the same way twice. Sometimes the desktop starts on monitor 1, sometimes monitor 2, and lately I'm missing the control bards on the top and bottom, but the left bar appears, just on the wrong monitor.
The serious problems began after I installed system-config-display but removing it has not restored things. System is currently unusable, and I get about 25 reboots before it starts running efs2ck on my large drives which takes hours to complete, which doesn't give me too many chances to "inch" toward the problem.
I will say, that FC12 is incredible - when it works!
/Len
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20th January 2010, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by tashirosgt
All I know about kernel updates is that when I do a general update with "yum -y update", I often get a new kernel.
The problem you have with compiz, of course, suggests a problem with 3D rendering. I don't have any ideas about that at the moment.
Perhaps it will help to make our terminology precise. However, trying to do this is the usual computer comedy of very precise sounding names that are used imprecisely. For example, both "Arrandale" and "Arrandale-SV" appear on the web. Are they the same thing? Apparently an "Arrandale" is a motherboard "chipset". Such chipsets have a "graphics core". For the "Arrandale", the graphics core might be the GMA X4500HD or the GMA X4500MHD. I read that the "MHD" is the "mobile" version, so that's what I would expect to be in a laptop.
So we should research the status of Linux support for the GMA X4500 core.
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I am not sure about that designation for the Arrandale built in video? I could not find much information about it yet. It appears that the link that was used earlier in this thread lists that there driver is working with that chipset but only on kernel 2.6.32 or after. So first I am going to try updating my kernel then manually installing that driver if necessary and then see what happens. I really don't care if I mess up this installation as it contains nothing. I am trying to determine a proper set up for this laptop currently.
I am not good with linux yet, but this problem is guiding me to various sites and forums that I am learning things about it fast. Hopefully when this is sorted and work for all of us with these issue and this newer built on video chipset we are all smarter for it, or at least not dumber
I know that designation GMA X4500 was used back in 2008 but I do not think that it is the current designation for the new i3 and other chips with conjoined video on them. I believe they are using a new one and I am not currently privy to what it is.
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21st January 2010, 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by leigh123linux
Next time use pastebin or code tags for the output, I don't bother reading output when it's presented badly.
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So sorry, i am really new in this forum and i don't know how to do that. Next time i will try to do it better.
Thank you again!
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21st January 2010, 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by damianlperez
So sorry, i am really new in this forum and i don't know how to do that. Next time i will try to do it better.
Thank you again!
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No problem  , here's a link for you to bookmark for next time.
http://pastebin.com/
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