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Old 9th March 2017, 10:16 PM
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Re: GNOME has become a slow dog

Don't know about you guys, but any Windowing platform that unilaterally decided to appropriate itself a piece of the screen, and cannot be "told to go away" , is by definition, dictatorial behaviour. (example .... the Gnome black bar on top)

That is why I choose more "friendly" environments, where Xfce, and LXDE, are kings of the road (+ ahead). Small, simple, capable, configurable, they are not picky on hardware.

but then again, that is my "cup of tea" since I got a gazillion PCs floating around my environment, including some old dogs which still serve some purpose, so I need good common denominators.

EDIT: but my installing Fedora Workstation (FC25 latest version, not an "old version of Gnome") on a 1GB RAM "older" Mini-PC with a Dual Core 2Ghz processor with an i915 GPU should have worked without a hitch, and it alsmot did ........ until GNOME started and I tried to "do anything"... to no avail, which led to my original post "A DOG". shocking !@

EDIT#2: and I can guarantee you that it does not do Fedora any good !

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Old 9th March 2017, 10:39 PM
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Re: GNOME has become a slow dog

Truth be known, if MATE had Wayland compatibility, I'd be so there

And yeah bobx, I wouldn't dream of running GNOME on hardware like that. That's where the lighter weight environments shine. I have tried things like GNOME or even KDE on older more memory and GPU limited systems like netbooks, it's just not pleasant.
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Old 9th March 2017, 10:40 PM
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Re: GNOME has become a slow dog

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Truth be known, if MATE had Wayland compatibility, I'd be so there
If you got some time, could you pls explain in one or 2 sentences Wayland to me ?
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Old 15th March 2017, 03:42 PM
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Re: GNOME has become a slow dog

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It all rather depends on a few critical factors regardless of the system's age. Processor speed, how many cores it has, amount of RAM installed, GPU type and how much dedicated and/or shared system memory it has. If one or more of these requirements is left wanting then GNOME 3 can run slow as molasses but then so can Cinnamon too.
Gnome would be better received by newcomers IMHO if they did what some app developers do and
provide a recommended system requirements of the above critical factors on their Gnome 3 page of Gnome.org.
Have sent an email requesting they do this.
Pitivi already do this for instance.

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Try using gnome for longer than a day at a time. Even better, try it using the wayland session.
X without any Wayland is so buggy at boot, it's Wayland or no way here.

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Old 22nd March 2017, 11:27 AM
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Re: GNOME has become a slow dog

bobx001

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If you got some time, could you pls explain in one or 2 sentences Wayland to me
The reason I am here is because gnome on wayland is pretty good.

if you do not autologin, your choices from memory are
gnome
gnome classic
and something else

gnome....means gnome on Xwayland and we are not on true wayland or wayland without X

try this

Code:
echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE
I just installed XFCE and it reports X11 but Gnome reports wayland.

so roughly speaking wayland is a graphical engine needed a desktop environment or window manager

if you kill the login manager and have weston installed, you would be on pure Wayland.

but that lacks apps so for now we are better off on XWayland.

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as we know linux offers choices. I am not an expert but try the gnome classic and you should be back on X11 (Xorg)

sorry it took me too long....I am not an expert
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Old 22nd March 2017, 11:36 AM
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Re: GNOME has become a slow dog

sorry forgot to mention a possible cure for the "black bar"
if you are on Gnome (wayland) press F11 and bar is gone.

most VLC and other app uses this feature. F11 means maximize screen.

if you would like a quick max to under the black bar, which is my default,
I open an app
hold the modifier key and press the up arrow.

---for most people that is the Windows key unless you have a mac keyboard

as I can't find a minimize button top RH corner of my gnome apps, reverse those kb shortcuts to get to desktop
mod + down key

(alternatively open a new window with
mod + pagedown key)
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Old 22nd March 2017, 12:34 PM
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Re: GNOME has become a slow dog

@gordon64 buttons for minimize, maximize can be set from the Windows tab of tweak-tool app.
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Old 22nd March 2017, 01:40 PM
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Re: GNOME has become a slow dog

@JONOR

excellent
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Old 22nd March 2017, 05:28 PM
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Re: GNOME has become a slow dog

Gnome works just fine for me. I use the xorg interface. When Gnome ran slow, I ran top from the terminal mode. I discovered firefox was chewing up the cpu. I quit firefox, and still, top showed firefox chewing up the cpu.
I logged out, returned and without firefox, the system was just fine. My system dates from 2008.
After some updates to Firefox 52.0, I have had no bad experience with Gnome.
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